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COIN: The Struggle with Insurgency in Wargames

Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:33 pm

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Re: COIN: The Struggle with Insurgency in Wargames

Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:17 pm

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Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:58 pm

The article is well written and thought out except this line "The Soviets in Afghanistan employed a level of cruelty far lesser than Coalition excesses that birthed ISIS in Iraq - and still lost." This sound like the the soviets were the the nice kids on the block compared to the coalition. I reaaallly hope this was a an editing mistake and not really trying to pretend the atrocious behavior of the soviets in afghanistan.

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Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:55 am

Uriel -

I don't want to speak for the author, but I think it was an editing mistake. The way I think it was intended was, "The Soviets were willing to employ far greater cruelty, yet failed" - IE, the problem isn't just that we have pansy politicians back home, or are squeamish about doing what needs to be done; that's been tried against insurgencies and has failed at least as badly as any "soft" approach.

The Soviets in Afghanistan weren't the most vicious counter-insurgents in the world, but they certainly had fewer inhibitions, cared less about any internal or international pressure, etc. And the real point is - it didn't help. The way out isn't to "be tougher".

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Re: COIN: The Struggle with Insurgency in Wargames

Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:17 pm

Sorry about the delay in dealing with this. The line was mean't to read "...far greater than..." - the article has now been fixed.
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