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#1 14 DEC 2007 at 9:25am
Zouave Centurion Posts : 457 Joined: 29 JAN 2006 Status : Online	Does anyone know if HPS has any plans to publish a game based on the Franco-Prussian War? Or the Austro-Prussian War? Rahamy, HPS had ever considered this idea before? Thanks. "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." - Napoleon
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#2 14 DEC 2007 at 9:31am
Sol Invictus Centurion Posts : 967 Joined: 6 APR 2005 Location: US Status : Offline	Those subjects would definately get me to break out the plastic. What will not even tempt me to reach for my wallet is yet another Civil War or WWII title. "The fruit of too much liberty is slavery" Cicero
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#3 14 DEC 2007 at 9:41am
Hemmingway Centurion Posts : 20 Joined: 26 FEB 2008 Location: 0 Status : Online	HPS has free access to my wallet. [ ] I'll buy pretty much anything they develop. Something with the Franco-Prussia war would be nice, but I'm still waiting for some Civil War eastern theater titles...
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#4 14 DEC 2007 at 9:48am
Red Lancer Centurion Posts : 49 Joined: 2 JAN 2007 Status : Online	Don't forget the Crimean War and the Franco-Austrian War ( Italian campaign of 1859 ). After the Napoleonic Wars, one of the officers of the Old Guard, Noisot, had erected at his own expense a bronze monument to Napoleon. He arranged to be buried standing up a few yards so that he could continue to stand guard for eternity.
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#5 14 DEC 2007 at 10:08am
jackx Centurion Posts : 136 Joined: 30 NOV 2006 Status : Online	I still get my 1859 fix via Sid Meier's Gettysburg (there's a Solferino battle pack for it over [url=http://waterloo.strategyplanet.gamespy.com/smgdownload.shtml]here[/url]), but something covering 1854-71 would indeed be nice. [url=http://www.bgmod.com][img]http://s3.bilder-hosting.de/img/Z1LRY.jpg[/img][/url] [b][url=http://www.bgmod.com][color=blue]The Battle Grounds 2[/color][/url] \| [url=http://community.bg2mod.com][color=blue]BG2 community[/color][/url][/b]
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#6 14 DEC 2007 at 10:34am
sabre31 Centurion Posts : 254 Joined: 17 MAY 2005 Status : Offline	I agree I am tired of WW2 and Civil war ones as well....
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#7 14 DEC 2007 at 10:37am
redcoat2 Centurion Posts : 380 Joined: 2 AUG 2006 Location: UK Status : Offline	I would definitely buy HPS titles that cover the 1840-1880 time period. In the meantime I’m making do with Age of Rifles and the Solferino battlepack for SMG. I vaguely remember seeing a Franco-Prussian War modpack for Talonsoft’s Battleground 6: Napoleon in Russia (NiR). I don’t know where it is now. There is a Crimean War mod – with various scenarios - for Battleground 6 on the NiR Project website (which is [link=http://www.nir-project.com/AddPages/TMenu.html][color=#0000FF]here[/color][/link]).
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#8 14 DEC 2007 at 11:33am
Zouave Centurion Posts : 457 Joined: 29 JAN 2006 Status : Online	The Franco-Austrian War would be great as well! The Battlefield Anomalies website has an interesting article on the battle of Solferino ( the main battle of the Franco-Austrian War ). http://www.battlefieldanomalies.com/solferino/index.htm Great links guys. "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." - Napoleon
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#9 14 DEC 2007 at 12:48pm
Red Lancer Centurion Posts : 49 Joined: 2 JAN 2007 Status : Online	Solferino battlepack for SMG... [X(]... [X(]... Is it any good? After the Napoleonic Wars, one of the officers of the Old Guard, Noisot, had erected at his own expense a bronze monument to Napoleon. He arranged to be buried standing up a few yards so that he could continue to stand guard for eternity.
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#10 14 DEC 2007 at 1:36pm
redcoat2 Centurion Posts : 380 Joined: 2 AUG 2006 Location: UK Status : Offline	ORIGINAL: Red Lancer Solferino battlepack for SMG... [X(]... [X(]... Is it any good? It’s entertaining – but a picky Grognard would find fault with it. The drawback with the mod is that infantry and cavalry fight like they do in the original ACW game. Infantry can’t form assault columns (as they did in 1859) – and cavalry cannot charge home with the lance or sabre (as they did in 1859). It would be great if someone could do a Solferino mod of Austerlitz: Napoleon’s Greatest Battle or Waterloo: Napoleon’s Last Battle. There is a screenshot of Solferino [link=http://www.geocities.com/favouritegames/soltown_image.html]here[/link].
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#11 14 DEC 2007 at 2:01pm
rahamy Commander Posts : 1304 Joined: 6 MAR 2008 Location: US, VA Status : Offline	Hey guys, As you know I can't talk specifics - as we abhor "vaporware" here at HPS. So when you hear of something, you are exceptionally close to putting your hands on it. So, let me just direct you to my Blog, specifically post #7 (on page 2): [link=http://www.gamesquad.com/forums/blogs/viewblog.php?userid=4568]http://www.gamesquad.com/forums/blogs/viewblog.php?userid=4568[/link] The Front Line http://www.hist-sdc.com/
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#12 14 DEC 2007 at 2:23pm
Bismarck Colonel Posts : 4434 Joined: 31 MAY 2001 Location: US, Wisconsin Status : Offline	Sorry, Rich, Post #7 deals with NATO and I don't see a page 2. Jim Cobb, Ph. D. Adjunct Faculty, Cardinal Stritch University
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#13 14 DEC 2007 at 2:37pm
redcoat2 Centurion Posts : 380 Joined: 2 AUG 2006 Location: UK Status : Offline	ORIGINAL: Bismarck Sorry, Rich, Post #7 deals with NATO and I don't see a page 2. [link=http://www.gamesquad.com/forums/blogs/viewblog.php?userid=4568&pp=10&page=2][color=#0000FF]Page 2[/color][/link]
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#14 14 DEC 2007 at 3:04pm
rahamy Commander Posts : 1304 Joined: 6 MAR 2008 Location: US, VA Status : Offline	The post # is in the grey bar at the top of each post, on the right. You can go to previous posts buy using the page navigation at the bottom of the blog. Lots of stuff up there relating to Danube Front right now, so sorry to make the musket heads wade through it. The Front Line http://www.hist-sdc.com/
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#15 14 DEC 2007 at 4:03pm
Bismarck Colonel Posts : 4434 Joined: 31 MAY 2001 Location: US, Wisconsin Status : Offline	Thanks, Guys. Jim Cobb, Ph. D. Adjunct Faculty, Cardinal Stritch University
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#16 14 DEC 2007 at 9:36pm
Seawolf Commander Posts : 1289 Joined: 25 JUL 2006 Status : Online	I would fully support this endeavor. Aside from the great battles at the front of the war, the occupation of the remaining year would also be crazy stuff. Also how to rate them? They can't be mostly B's, A's and A+'s like in Napoleon's campaigns. The verdict on "Free Tibet" and Kosovo: [img]http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/559/batistathumbsdown1gn3.gif[/img]
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#17 14 DEC 2007 at 9:58pm
Bismarck Colonel Posts : 4434 Joined: 31 MAY 2001 Location: US, Wisconsin Status : Offline	I've advocated for these battles long anf loudly, but I fear doing them right will be difficult. Prussian open order is not the same as skirmishers. Magazine-fed rifles are not the same as muskets or WW II small arms. Using the latitude given to Prussian junior officers would demand a different command and control structure. Simulaiting French tactical inertia after successfully repulsing attacks iis difficult. Repllcvating the Prussian artillery line at Mars le tourss would be something I've never seen in a computer game. Good luck. Jim Cobb, Ph. D. Adjunct Faculty, Cardinal Stritch University
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#18 15 DEC 2007 at 10:17am
redcoat2 Centurion Posts : 380 Joined: 2 AUG 2006 Location: UK Status : Offline	ORIGINAL: Bismarck Magazine-fed rifles are not the same as muskets or WW II small arms. Magazine-fed rifles? I thought the Prussian Dreyse and French Chassepot were single-shot bolt-action rifles. I think that an HPS game could recreate their effectiveness quite well. You would just need to have appropriate firepower stats in the 'pdt' files. i.e. More effective firepower than in the Napoleonic and ACW games.
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#19 15 DEC 2007 at 10:29am
Bismarck Colonel Posts : 4434 Joined: 31 MAY 2001 Location: US, Wisconsin Status : Offline	ORIGINAL: redcoat2 ORIGINAL: Bismarck Magazine-fed rifles are not the same as muskets or WW II small arms. Magazine-fed rifles? I thought the Prussian Dreyse and French Chassepot were single-shot bolt-action rifles. I think that an HPS game could recreate their effectiveness quite well. You would just need to have appropriate firepower stats in the 'pdt' files. i.e. More effective firepower than in the Napoleonic and ACW games. Sorry, you're right. I meant breech-loading. It's not only firepower but individual initiative and protection as well as fire discipline. By focusing on firepower, you proved my initial point; much more here than meets the eye. Knowing how many irons JT has in the fire, I expect a game on this subject from somebody like AGEOD, Western Civilization Software, Hussar or an European indie. Jim Cobb, Ph. D. Adjunct Faculty, Cardinal Stritch University
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#20 15 DEC 2007 at 2:58pm
Boggit Colonel Posts : 3525 Joined: 18 JUL 2003 Status : Offline	Despite the doubt expressed. I would be happy to shell out for FPW or similar. A great idea.[ ]
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#21 15 DEC 2007 at 3:14pm
Bismarck Colonel Posts : 4434 Joined: 31 MAY 2001 Location: US, Wisconsin Status : Offline	Oh, I'll get it; I'm just scared I'll be disappointed like I was with AOR's scenarios from that period. Jim Cobb, Ph. D. Adjunct Faculty, Cardinal Stritch University
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#22 15 DEC 2007 at 6:37pm
rahamy Commander Posts : 1304 Joined: 6 MAR 2008 Location: US, VA Status : Offline	Hopefully we haven't disappointed you too often Jim! [ ] The Front Line http://www.hist-sdc.com/
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#23 15 DEC 2007 at 6:50pm
Bismarck Colonel Posts : 4434 Joined: 31 MAY 2001 Location: US, Wisconsin Status : Offline	ORIGINAL: rahamy Hopefully we haven't disappointed you too often Jim! [ ] You never have; I've overstudied this period. For example, did you know Moltke went back to shock tactics because the chassepot outranged the Dreyse? Shades of 1859!!! Jim Cobb, Ph. D. Adjunct Faculty, Cardinal Stritch University
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#24 15 DEC 2007 at 7:16pm
rahamy Commander Posts : 1304 Joined: 6 MAR 2008 Location: US, VA Status : Offline	Nope, but then again this isn't a time period I personally have over studied. [ ] The Front Line http://www.hist-sdc.com/
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#25 15 DEC 2007 at 7:20pm
Bismarck Colonel Posts : 4434 Joined: 31 MAY 2001 Location: US, Wisconsin Status : Offline	People should study it more; it's the true seminal period of military history. Jim Cobb, Ph. D. Adjunct Faculty, Cardinal Stritch University
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