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#1 6 NOV 2008 at 12:16pm
Centurion40 General Posts : 10892 Joined: 31 OCT 2003 Location: CA, Halifax Status : Offline	Update: Rahm Emanuel has accept the post as President-Elect Obama's Chief of Staff (huh... "Chief of Staff"... there's a Beavis 'n Butthead joke in there somewhere). Rahm's the son of a man who was in the Irgun and the inspiration for the Josh Lyman character on West Wing (according to Wiki). Interesting. I wonder if this was done to help silence people (like my own mother) who are 100% convinced that Obama is an agent of the international Islamic Jihad. I mean that my mom really does lose sleep at night, worrying the Obama is fooling people and that he will open the doors of the US to Islamic terrorists. "I love Anne Hathaway and her penchant for nudity." -The Dawg of Metal
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#2 7 NOV 2008 at 9:28am
mscano Commander Posts : 1524 Joined: 29 DEC 2006 Location: US, New York Status : Offline	I don't know about Obama being some Islamic Manchurian trojan horse thingy, but the choice of Emanuel isn't exactly showing us the "bi-partisan" spirit that he and Pelosi were talking about the other night. And Emanuel isn't exactly the fresh face of "Change" that Barry O promised either. The next four years are gonna be a hoot! I just gonna sit back and enjoy.
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#3 7 NOV 2008 at 9:33am
LongBlade General Posts : 20586 Joined: 2 MAY 2003 Status : Offline	I'm giving the man a chance. Emmanuel is supposed to be one of these "get 'er done" guys. Yes, I've heard criticisms that he's rabidly partisan. Let's see how the balance of the Obama administration comes out. Having an effective Chief of Staff tells me one thing so far: Obama intends to be effective. That's good enough for me. I am the Ancien Regime
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#4 7 NOV 2008 at 9:48am
GDS Starfury General Posts : 16394 Joined: 26 MAY 2001 Location: 0, Starbase 10 Status : Offline	obamas stance on Israel is one of the things thats had me concerned. this choice goes some distance in solving that. however the guy is about as partisan as you can be and lifelong politician. hes like the Democratic Carl Rove but sneakier. I mean really.... even Rove couldnt have staged the timing of obamas grandmothers passing any better.
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#5 7 NOV 2008 at 10:15am
Gusington General Posts : 18089 Joined: 16 AUG 2004 Location: US, USMA Status : Offline	^ My Mom is also convinced that Obama is Muslim and is opening the US to jihad too. And she really hates Obama's stance on Israel. But like I've been doing for about 20 years I've ignored my Mom's rants. I don't know Emmanuel from a hole in the wall but a sneakier Rove sounds like a new level of Evil. I'm glad my character uses a shield because I may be taking a bashing here soon. - Rayfer
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#6 7 NOV 2008 at 10:25am
Flitcraft Centurion Posts : 731 Joined: 6 DEC 2005 Status : Online	*Originally Posted By LongBlade* I'm giving the man a chance. Emmanuel is supposed to be one of these "get 'er done" guys. Yes, I've heard criticisms that he's rabidly partisan. Let's see how the balance of the Obama administration comes out. Having an effective Chief of Staff tells me one thing so far: Obama intends to be effective. That's good enough for me. That is [i]exactly [/i]right. Too early to judge, and Chief of Staff is a position where you want a guy like Emmanuel.
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#7 7 NOV 2008 at 2:01pm
Arctic Blast Commander Posts : 2503 Joined: 9 APR 2007 Location: CA, Alberta Status : Offline	I actually think the selection of Emanuel has a lot to do with Israel...they absolutely love the guy over there, and I see his choice being based, at least in part, on showing Israel that the new government is still 'on side'.
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#8 7 NOV 2008 at 3:04pm
TheChaosProject Commander Posts : 1982 Joined: 18 FEB 2004 Status : Offline	What I find ironic is that with all of the stated worries of the Jewish population that were stated before the election, Obama won the Jewish vote 78% to 21% over McCain. I think that says something about those said concerns did not actually come from the Jewish community, but instead by pundits. Obama's results were a 4% pickup from 2004.$0$0$0$0Emanuel, I believe, was a smart choice. Even though he is a partisian in some areas, he is not a hardcore liberal, rather a left-center Dem. His partisianship does not come from extreme ideals, but rather his belief in the issues that he supports. He has been able to reach across to Conservatives in order to get issues done, the problem is that he is been known to rub people the wrong way in certain situations. We shall see if his tone shifts in line with that of Obama or the same problems continue.$0$0$0$0$0Thats my two cents.$0$0$0$0$0The Chaos Project$0 Petty Officer Second Class, United States Navy
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#9 7 NOV 2008 at 3:32pm
ChuckB Centurion Posts : 305 Joined: 30 DEC 2004 Status : Online	*Originally Posted By Centurion40* I wonder if this was done to help silence people (like my own mother) who are 100% convinced that Obama is an agent of the international Islamic Jihad. I mean that my mom really does lose sleep at night, worrying the Obama is fooling people and that he will open the doors of the US to Islamic terrorists. With all due respect, I guess is that there is nothing you can really do in the world to silence people who believe something like that ... but Israel and the wish to get stuff done and have someone with experience probably played some role (I personally don't see anything wrong with this motivation). I find it quite interesting that some people here on the boards, who would probably cheer for a outspoken, tought guy like Rahmi if he would be on the other political side now call the same character traits sneaky and even suggest that the death of Obama's grandmother might be staged ...
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#10 7 NOV 2008 at 3:35pm
GDS Starfury General Posts : 16394 Joined: 26 MAY 2001 Location: 0, Starbase 10 Status : Offline	the Jews in question are from the New York and Miam areas where their populations have the highest density. these are also the two areas that have voted Democrat forever. Im not a pudnit but I am a Jew and obamas stance with Israel does scare the shit out of me. His partisianship does not come from extreme ideals, but rather his belief in the issues that he supports. He has been able to reach across to Conservatives in order to get issues done, o'rly........ [b]In 2007, Emanuel Voted With The Democrats 98 Percent Of The Time.[/b] ([i]Congressional Quarterly[/i] Website, [link=https://webmail.nationaljournal.com/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.cq.com/][color=#000000]www.cq.com[/color][/link], Accessed 10/31/0 [font="arial narrow"][b]In 2006, Emanuel Voted With The Democrats 92 Percent Of The Time. [/b]([i]Congressional Quarterly[/i] Website, [link=https://webmail.nationaljournal.com/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.cq.com/][color=#000000]www.cq.com[/color][/link], Accessed 10/31/0 [/font] [font="arial narrow"][b]In 2005, Emanuel Voted With The Democrats 95 Percent Of The Time. [/b]([i]Congressional Quarterly[/i] Website, [link=https://webmail.nationaljournal.com/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.cq.com/][color=#000000]www.cq.com[/color][/link], Accessed 10/31/0 [/font] [font="arial narrow"][b]In 2004, Emanuel Voted With The Democrats 97 Percent Of The Time. [/b]([i]Congressional Quarterly[/i] Website, [link=https://webmail.nationaljournal.com/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.cq.com/][color=#000000]www.cq.com[/color][/link], Accessed 10/31/0 [/font] [font="arial narrow"][b]In 2003, Emanuel Voted With The Democrats 95 Percent Of The Time. [/b]([i]Congressional Quarterly[/i] Website, [link=https://webmail.nationaljournal.com/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.cq.com/][color=#000000]www.cq.com[/color][/link], Accessed 10/31/0 [/font] I guess his arms are to short to quite reach the other aisle.
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#11 7 NOV 2008 at 4:40pm
Jim_LineofDeparture Commander Posts : 1451 Joined: 5 OCT 2006 Status : Online	I certainly wish that Rahm Emanuel were a fellow Republican. We need more pitbulls in the Party, guys who are more interested in [b]winning [/b]than being invited for cocktails with the winners. I also followed stories in Jewish media, starting with the [i]Cleveland Jewish News[/i] and the [i]Jewish Chronicle[/i] in Pittsburgh (I'm not Jewish, but I'm often in places where these papers are on the table). The support for Obama among Jews was a frequent subject in both, as well as [i]Ha'aretz[/i] (which I sometimes read online). One of the things that struck me a lot was that nobody could really figure out why Jews were collectively among Obama's most dependable supporters, but in the two American papers, there appeared to be a general agreement that supporting him was a very good thing. The question of Obama's support for Israel came up a lot, expecially in [i]Ha'aretz[/i], and that was where I saw probably the most agreement. Writers in general in all three stated that there was no longer the strong, almost visceral support for Israel that the country had enjoyed in decades past, and so it was no longer a litmus test for Jewish support of a candidate. Domestic policies and ideology are far more crucial. So was disgust with George W. Bush. Like it or not, he was the eight-hundred-pound gorilla in the voting booth. Jim Werbaneth [link=http://www.jimwerbaneth.com/lod]OnLine of Departure[/link] [link=http://www.jimwerbaneth.com/wargames]Wargames by Jim Werbaneth[/link]
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#12 7 NOV 2008 at 4:55pm
GDS Starfury General Posts : 16394 Joined: 26 MAY 2001 Location: 0, Starbase 10 Status : Offline	my concerns arnt so much about how he will act towards Israel but how he will act towards hamas and hezbollah and Iran.
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#13 7 NOV 2008 at 5:09pm
mscano Commander Posts : 1524 Joined: 29 DEC 2006 Location: US, New York Status : Offline	I wouldn't worry about Israel guys. It's a double edged sword you know. Obama can scale down on support for Israel, but all that means is that Israel no longer has to play by our (USA) rules. They can settle things any way they like. Take U.S. backing away and you take the leash off the dog..........that won't end well for Israel's neighbors if they decide to poke them with a stick. As far as Emanuel is concerned, here are some fun facts: 1. He was Bill Clinton's finance committee chairman for his campaign 2. He was a senior adviser in the Clinton administration 3. He once mailed a dead fish to a Republican Pollster. (is this guy Jewish or Sicilian?) 4. And I also heard something about him stabbing a table with a steak knife at a dinner during the '96 campaign. My point was that he's not exactly a fresh face in Washington. Obama keeps talking about "change" and a new way of doing business, but I'm seeing the same old faces so far. Let's wait and see. [sm=00000613.gif]
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#14 7 NOV 2008 at 5:22pm
bboyer66 Colonel Posts : 4709 Joined: 17 APR 2006 Location: US, Pittsburgh PA Status : Offline	Damn, I thought this was going to be a thread about the softcore movie series that has been around since I was a kid. Emanuel goes to space, and Emanuel 2000 are my favorites. Pittsburgh Eats
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#15 7 NOV 2008 at 5:29pm
jim pfleck Centurion Posts : 52 Joined: 6 MAR 2007 Status : Offline	Hello from Chicago! Emmanuel (who I think is Jewish, could be wrong) may be a fighter and at times a party hack, but he loves to talk. He is on speaking terms with most of the republicans in congress and is a do-er and a deal maker, not someone acting from a rigid ideology. He excecutes his mission, which for years is getting votes in congress. As an Obama supporter, I would have prefered a fresher face but upon reading up on the guy and talking to a friend who talked to Emmanuel for a while at the victory party, the pick was mostly about it being someone Obama knew, who was well organized, could run the white house, and was on good terms with Capitol Hill. A little nuts he may be, but he is much more practical than that voting record shows. So while the guy may not represent "change" in some sense. Change meant three main things to his supporters-new directions in foreign policy, economic policy, and a move away from partisan-ideology based politics into something more inclusive and accepting of different view points. The jury is certianly out as to which of these points Emmanuel represents, but his job is now to do what his boss wants, and he has always been veery good at that. he may end up being the facilitator of a lot that happens in the next two years, which I think will be mostly pretty good.
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#16 7 NOV 2008 at 5:31pm
ChuckB Centurion Posts : 305 Joined: 30 DEC 2004 Status : Online	*Originally Posted By bboyer66* Damn, I thought this was going to be a thread about the softcore movie series that has been around since I was a kid. Emanuel goes to space, and Emanuel 2000 are my favorites. Well, I don't know about [i]your [/i]childhood, but I have only heard of [b]Emanuelle[/b], but I'm sure that there is also a male version ... [sm=00000289.gif]
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#17 8 NOV 2008 at 8:26am
Centurion40 General Posts : 10892 Joined: 31 OCT 2003 Location: CA, Halifax Status : Offline	*Originally Posted By bboyer66* Damn, I thought this was going to be a thread about the softcore movie series that has been around since I was a kid. Emanuel goes to space, and Emanuel 2000 are my favorites. Hey now! Don't go there! I'm still trying to get over the fact that the "No Man's Land" thread has nothing to do with sapphic porn! "I love Anne Hathaway and her penchant for nudity." -The Dawg of Metal
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