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9 MAR 2009 at 4:35pm

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Yes and then if it works well we could go on to one of the newer games.My Gettysburg is updated and ready to go.I think the AI works OK with smaller scenarios.Maybe it can give a challenge.But it is overwhelmed if you surround it(smaller games)In the big ones it sometimes stands still.Moniter this board,we'll do a little reading,then try a small scenario in a week or so.That sound ok?Also we can use private messaging,although I don't know how it works yet.

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9 MAR 2009 at 4:39pm

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I'm going to send a private message test so we don't have to communicate here on the board.

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10 MAR 2009 at 4:56am

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Guys, here's a link I posted to a tutorial in the other thread: [link=http://www.hist-sdc.com/help/help_2.html]http://www.hist-sdc.com/help/help_2.html[/link] Also, I highly suggest you "zip" the game files, as transfer over the net can sometimes corrupt them. If you need help in getting going feel free to email me with questions:  Rich  at  hist-sdc.com

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10 MAR 2009 at 11:56am

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Excellent news, I love the 16th century period and I recommend to anyone interested "The Art of War in the 16th Century" by Charles Oman, a real masterpiece. I see there are some important battles missing from the scenario list, like Garellano, Alcazarquivir, Kerestes...but I am not complaining, just more room for scenario creation
BTW How many emails should be exchanged to finish one turn in PBEM?

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10 MAR 2009 at 12:08pm

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Originally Posted By Mars Ultor
Excellent news, I love the 16th century period and I recommend to anyone interested "The Art of War in the 16th Century" by Charles Oman, a real masterpiece. I see there are some important battles missing from the scenario list, like Garellano, Alcazarquivir, Kerestes...but I am not complaining, just more room for scenario creation
We definitely did some cutting on what was included, but we had to - as the project was huge, but segments didn't warrant their own game. Assuming the title is popular the scenario designer may do an expansion package with some of the stuff that had to be left out.
BTW How many emails should be exchanged to finish one turn in PBEM?
Just two, the first player does there, saves it and emails it to the next guy & he does his portion. The turn is then technically done, but you then send it back and the other player can watch the replay. Pretty painless.

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10 MAR 2009 at 1:37pm

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BTW How many emails should be exchanged to finish one turn in PBEM?
Just two, the first player does there, saves it and emails it to the next guy & he does his portion. The turn is then technically done, but you then send it back and the other player can watch the replay. Pretty painless. Good, I usually PBEM and complicated systems usually turn away players, and I hope to find some opponents out there.

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11 MAR 2009 at 8:53am

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I demand The Renaissance Impressions and AARs! Give them to me! Actually, has anyone received the game to comment? I'm really itching here, because its near the time period I study and so very unique, but it would be my first real Tiller game (non-SB anyway) and I'm a little scared! SoM

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11 MAR 2009 at 10:59am

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Originally Posted By son_of_montfort
I demand The Renaissance Impressions and AARs! Give them to me! Actually, has anyone received the game to comment? I'm really itching here, because its near the time period I study and so very unique, but it would be my first real Tiller game (non-SB anyway) and I'm a little scared! SoM
Go to the GameSquad forums under "all games" & then "napoleonic games".  There's quite a bit of talk & more info over there.

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11 MAR 2009 at 11:13am

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What PrintShop said, but here's a link: [link=http://forums.gamesquad.com/forumdisplay.php?f=204]http://forums.gamesquad.com/forumdisplay.php?f=204[/link] Also, keep an eye on my blog for more info as I have time: [link=http://forums.gamesquad.com/blog.php?u=4568]http://forums.gamesquad.com/blog.php?u=4568[/link] and of course I'll post info here as I am able...just have a lot going on right now.

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11 MAR 2009 at 7:00pm

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Thanks guys, that little bit went a long way to increase my interest! I do with there was a Direct Download offer though, getting shipping to France is a pain in the rear! Any UK outlets for this one? SoM

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11 MAR 2009 at 7:04pm

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If you don't want to go through NWS you can use these guys in the UK -[link=http://www.duchet.com/]http://www.duchet.com/[/link]

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11 MAR 2009 at 8:46pm

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Originally Posted By son_of_montfort
Thanks guys, that little bit went a long way to increase my interest! I do with there was a Direct Download offer though, getting shipping to France is a pain in the rear! Any UK outlets for this one? SoM
Actually, we ship to France quite often. In EU the price would be 33.50 *including* shipping for one of the new HPS titles, 61.56 EU for both new titles. At $32.99 USD per title that comes out to 25.71 EU for the titles without shipping. We use first class air international for delivery to France and we do work with our customers regarding VAT. (Note, these prices are based on the present exchange rates) Thanks.

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12 MAR 2009 at 5:39am

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Originally Posted By Warship NWS
Originally Posted By son_of_montfort
Thanks guys, that little bit went a long way to increase my interest! I do with there was a Direct Download offer though, getting shipping to France is a pain in the rear! Any UK outlets for this one? SoM
Actually, we ship to France quite often. In EU the price would be 33.50 *including* shipping for one of the new HPS titles, 61.56 EU for both new titles. At $32.99 USD per title that comes out to 25.71 EU for the titles without shipping. We use first class air international for delivery to France and we do work with our customers regarding VAT. (Note, these prices are based on the present exchange rates) Thanks.
Actually Chris, I can operate in both USD$ and Euros and prefer to use $$. I love ordering from your site, and have done so recently (got SAS for Christmas) but I was trying to avoid the $9.99 in shipping if I had to. Even with the shipping costs, your prices are the most competitive and I trust your company far more than most - but the Euro to Pound ratio is very good atm. With all that though, after some research last night, I think your prices are best. For me, its if I wait to get this when I have some family coming over late next month (thus they could bring the CD) or get it now and have it in about 5-11 days. So many good wargames out now... and Empires of Steel is looming on the horizon! SoM

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12 MAR 2009 at 3:12pm

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Well, I (in France) hesitated between Duchet and NWS, these are my only loyal appointed furnishers [
] .. I'd settled for Duchet just to have a faster shipment. Prices are roughly the same overall, as NWS is basically less but charges int'l air mail, where Duchet's shipping is free. So now I have Renaissance, a really fascinanting period, solid HPS-style ! I have a tech problem though, that I never had with any HPS/Tiller title (I own 25 or so, since 95..) : music and sound don't play correctly ! They play for say 1 sec and this 1 sec loops infinitely, can't even be turned off ... I had to turn off all sounds. Even weirder, the music/sound wav files DO play correctly when launched directly from WMP ! So I suspect some incomp between the ingame sofware player  and my config.. What can I do ? Where can I have tech support ?
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12 MAR 2009 at 4:52pm

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Hi pdf: While I imagine that Rich will be by to see this shortly, if you were not wanting to wait, you can send an email at the link on the HPS page. http://www.hpssims.com/Pages/Contact/contact.html

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12 MAR 2009 at 5:59pm

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Thanks for the supportive words regarding our store guys. As a note, our competitive pricing service includes international competitors with the appropriate exchange rates. [
] Also, thanks for supporting the efforts of HPS. [
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12 MAR 2009 at 7:19pm

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Well, the Marseillais post is terribly unreliable, and I have had nothing but issues with getting things from the UK. That Duchet site scared me off a bit, but its good to hear they are real. I think their prices are a bit high, although the one in pounds is about the same as Chris is offering (with the exchange rate). How long did it take Duchet to get it to you PDF? I bet they don't take US credit cards though, and I don't really feel like using my Euros for it (those are more for things like rent, and food). All in all, I'm leaning toward NWS, I got SaS pretty fast and I won't really be able to play the game until about 10 days (I have a friend visiting for that long starting this weekend). Would love to hear some impression PDF! SoM

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12 MAR 2009 at 7:38pm

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Someone raised the point that there have been modifications that allow grouped movement and similar AI takeovers of repetitive tasks.  I say this is very welcome.  In fact, I bought the first of the new WWII games that had that - a few years back, and I'm waiting for the next.  :-\
To Robear, so how would HPS cover the costs/time (which always equals money) of updating nearly 60+ titles?
I had always assumed that this was part of the company plan, to update the game system every, I don't know, 5-8 years or so?  I'm not arguing that they should go for glitz graphics or the like.  But if this is not part of the overhead over time, then the question becomes, how long will we be playing games with a mid-90's interface? Here in a nutshell is what I ask.  Please don't give me a division and make me move it a brigade or company at a time unless I want to.  Please don't make me click on every hex it needs to move through unless I want to.  Please let me have graphics that don't make my eyes hurt on a 1440x900 screen trying to tell one type of terrain spackle from another.  I'm sure there are other ease of use things I've forgotten. I guess if the game has, oh, 500 units, and they are moving say 5 hexes a turn for 120 turns, I'm clicking 300,000 times just to move units.  I don't think it's unreasonable to ask that that be reduced.  (And if it has, as I recall it to be in the "new" WWII system, that's great, that's a huge step forward.)  But I have arthritis, and that's not going to get better, ten years from now I *won't* be able to play heavy click games, so there's a good bit of self-interest here. New tech is always costly, but some amount of it is needed to stay remotely current.  I hope this is something that can be planned in.  And please don't take this as an attack.  I've just hit the point where these games I loved have become physically uncomfortable to play, and yet there are a few *relatively* simple changes (high res terrain, group movement, drag and drop pathing) that would help people in my situation way out of proportion to their costs.  Wargamers are not getting any younger.  :-)

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12 MAR 2009 at 7:45pm

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Originally Posted By Robear
Here in a nutshell is what I ask.  Please don't give me a division and make me move it a brigade or company at a time unless I want to.  Please don't make me click on every hex it needs to move through unless I want to.  Please let me have graphics that don't make my eyes hurt on a 1440x900 screen trying to tell one type of terrain spackle from another.  I'm sure there are other ease of use things I've forgotten.
Are you being specific to The Renaissance here - because I have a 1440x900 and asked in another thread if the resolution is supported or if it scales up from a lower resolution? Do these look bad on high resolutions? I only played Soviet Afghan war and on a CRT monitor at 1024x768 - so I haven't tried a Tiller game on my new lappy. I don't need great graphics (I play Dwarf Fortress regularly, for goodness sake) but I don't like blurry stuff. SoM

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12 MAR 2009 at 7:58pm

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I have dual 28" LCD's running at 1920 x 1200 and I have no issues visually. Support issues can be directed to  Support  at  hpssims.com

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12 MAR 2009 at 8:18pm

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Here was much strange........ son_of_montfort: SAW is a J.Tiller game. Robear: In my opinion HPS makes the best wargames for PC! Each games have different sce. Some are big some are small. I am a gamer who want to have control. I do not like " Panther " games.    

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13 MAR 2009 at 2:08pm

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Originally Posted By son_of_montfort
Well, the Marseillais post is terribly unreliable, and I have had nothing but issues with getting things from the UK. That Duchet site scared me off a bit, but its good to hear they are real. I think their prices are a bit high, although the one in pounds is about the same as Chris is offering (with the exchange rate). How long did it take Duchet to get it to you PDF? I bet they don't take US credit cards though, and I don't really feel like using my Euros for it (those are more for things like rent, and food). All in all, I'm leaning toward NWS, I got SaS pretty fast and I won't really be able to play the game until about 10 days (I have a friend visiting for that long starting this weekend). Would love to hear some impression PDF! SoM
Duchet is real and operates since 15 years or more. I ordered on last Sat and got it next wedsnesday morning. With NWS I had once a shipment as fast, but usually it took a bit more than a week. Don't think Duchet take $ credit though, but they take £ and euros...
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13 MAR 2009 at 2:28pm

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On average, international air mail going to Europe is around 4-7 business days. Customs processing time frames are variable but on average our shipments get through pretty quickly. You can also reach me directly via email or phone 24/7 with any questions. Thanks.

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14 MAR 2009 at 4:46am

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In response in Chris a few posts back. Hi Chris, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that a serial code system will stop pirating, but, for the "casual" pirate they won't generally be able to run the latest version of the game. As you rightly point out, the big game companies companies can't prevent, neither can HPS wth their current system.  All I am trying to say is adding a DD option would not, IMHO, all of a sudden make HPS games the "in thing" with the pirates. Cheers Mark

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14 MAR 2009 at 6:48am

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I also think that the DD + serial system, like Matrix or Ageod use, is the best compromise between piracy containment, cost-effectiveness and user friendliness for "niche" wargames or such. At one end of the spectrum we have Eagle Studios (Jutland) that has a so stringent and bothersome system I won't ever buy them a game, on the other Cryptic Comet (Armaggedon Empires) and some Shrapnel games that have no protection at all. Not sure it makes a difference piracy-wise, but I buy the latter.. HPS has an outdated system (the CD protection is easily bypassable), the games do end up after a while on warez and P2P, and they certainly lose some sales by the only-physical delivery. But they seem to be happy with that. Support is top-notch though, I had Scott sorting my sound problem in no time (it was an hardware acceleration issue).
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