| 27 DEC 2009 at 9:09pm |
Azzurri

Banned for 15399 days
Posts : 9755 Joined: 24 NOV 2009 Location: 0, Kentucky
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Bison36
You use 7-zip to install into the HOI3 folder inside of Steam? It doesn't self extract into the right folder.
Let me run out and get my Computer Sciences degree...hold on...I'll be right back.
It is better to die by a swords quick thrust than to be impaled for a lifetime upon the sharp tongue of a woman.-Grimjack
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| 27 DEC 2009 at 9:15pm |
Bison36Colonel


Posts : 6360 Joined: 31 MAR 2009 Location: US, Sweet Air of Freedom
Status : Offline | Read the thread man. It gives you the link to 7-Zip and then the instructions to install. That really only requires an education level that allows you to read and interpret english. No college needed. I promise, if I can get it to work you can too.
I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power, than by violent and sudden usurpations - James Madison
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| 27 DEC 2009 at 9:22pm |
Bison36Colonel


Posts : 6360 Joined: 31 MAR 2009 Location: US, Sweet Air of Freedom
Status : Offline | Install fix into your HOI3 folder using the 7-Zip program using the following pathing, unless you install Steam into a non auto install location.
Program Files > Steam > Steam Apps > Common (folder) > Hearts of Iron 3
*Click the install without notification choice in 7-Zip. Less thinking that way. It'll over write files it needs too.
I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power, than by violent and sudden usurpations - James Madison
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| 27 DEC 2009 at 10:04pm |
CuriousCenturion


Posts : 53 Joined: 20 SEP 2004
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Azzurri
DL'ed the patch from Paradox still no go...no worky...shiite muslim....this is frustrating
What do shiite muslims have to do with a patch for HOI3 from Paradox? Are you trying to cause an international religious confrontation here?
CB
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| 28 DEC 2009 at 12:07am |
ghostryderColonel


Posts : 6934 Joined: 4 MAY 2004 Location: US, Texas
Status : Offline | they beat themselves until they bleed to celebrate thier God- which is what I view in every thread around here having to do with Steam.
Seriously I don't get how they stay in buisness. 16 page thread on King aurthur- and half is about Steam hosing the game, 25 page on ETW and 3/4 of it is how Steam Hosed the game..on and on...
What do they do to keep you coming back? Send hookers to your apartment? Private lapdance sessions behind the Steam client. Why do people subject themseleves to this? Self mutilation? What?
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| 28 DEC 2009 at 12:54am |
NefaroColonel


Posts : 4640 Joined: 6 OCT 2003
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By ghostryder
they beat themselves until they bleed to celebrate thier God- which is what I view in every thread around here having to do with Steam.
Seriously I don't get how they stay in buisness. 16 page thread on King aurthur- and half is about Steam hosing the game, 25 page on ETW and 3/4 of it is how Steam Hosed the game..on and on...
What do they do to keep you coming back? Send hookers to your apartment? Private lapdance sessions behind the Steam client. Why do people subject themseleves to this? Self mutilation? What?
I've seen a handful around here who've been burned and say they'll never do it again. What I don't get is the few that think it's the best thing since sex.
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| 28 DEC 2009 at 3:39am |
rossntuCommander


Posts : 1271 Joined: 24 DEC 2008 Location: 0
Status : Offline | I'ver got to say I have never had a problem with Steam and I've bought a lot of games from them. Now I'm not saying everyone else has experienced the same, but why would I judge a service based on other's experiences? There are a lot of people satisfied with Steam, Gamersgate, D2D etc. There are also a lot who prefer to go down the physical copies route. It's a matter of choice and experience. Why do people who don't like it feel the need to put down those that do?
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| 28 DEC 2009 at 4:53am |
Jarhead0331Colonel


Posts : 8733 Joined: 24 MAY 2006 Location: 0, Texas
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By ghostryder
they beat themselves until they bleed to celebrate thier God- which is what I view in every thread around here having to do with Steam.
Seriously I don't get how they stay in buisness. 16 page thread on King aurthur- and half is about Steam hosing the game, 25 page on ETW and 3/4 of it is how Steam Hosed the game..on and on...
What do they do to keep you coming back? Send hookers to your apartment? Private lapdance sessions behind the Steam client. Why do people subject themseleves to this? Self mutilation? What?
They are able to stay in business because only the loud minority bitch and complain...the majority get good games really damn cheap that work smoothly and are enjoyed. Plain and simple...sorry this reality bothers some of you.
EDIT: I have thirty-seven (37) games on my steam games list. Out of all these games and hundreds of game hours played over a period of years, I've experienced two (2) issues...one was caused by DRM separate and apart from Steam (tages) and one was my own fault...both got sorted out rather quickly. Now, when I had those two (2) problems, I was really pissed off...however, in hindsight, steams record that spans over at least four (4) separate systems of mine through the years has been relatively flawless. This kind of record is typically something that should be commended, not flamed.

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| 28 DEC 2009 at 6:17am |
ghostryderColonel


Posts : 6934 Joined: 4 MAY 2004 Location: US, Texas
Status : Offline | I'm glad for your luck-but sorry folks one doesn't see threads dominated by posts about how GOG or GG isn't working in every game release. This is not an overstatement- it's in every thread about every game- that does not seem to me something worthy of beng commended on.
These should be rare posts-especially for such a service that is is so old- but one could bet money on thier appearance and win the bet every time. Often one has to go through through pages of posts before a post even mentions anything about the game in question- they end up being tech threads on how to get the game to run instead.
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| 28 DEC 2009 at 6:46am |
Jarhead0331Colonel


Posts : 8733 Joined: 24 MAY 2006 Location: 0, Texas
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By ghostryder
I'm glad for your luck-but sorry folks one doesn't see threads dominated by posts about how GOG or GG isn't working in every game release. This is not an overstatement- it's in every thread about every game- that does not seem to me something worthy of beng commended on.
These should be rare posts-especially for such a service that is is so old- but one could bet money on thier appearance and win the bet every time. Often one has to go through through pages of posts before a post even mentions anything about the game in question- they end up being tech threads on how to get the game to run instead.
Like I said...the loud minority. If you take a look, I'm sure you'll find its the same people complaining over and over again in a number of different threads. We have the same phenomenon here...I call them career complainers. The success of the system speaks for itself. There is nothing else to say.

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| 28 DEC 2009 at 7:01am |
roman2440Commander


Posts : 1036 Joined: 12 MAR 2004 Location: 0
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By ghostryder
I'm glad for your luck-but sorry folks one doesn't see threads dominated by posts about how GOG or GG isn't working in every game release. This is not an overstatement- it's in every thread about every game- that does not seem to me something worthy of beng commended on.
Again this is exactly what Jar is saying, its all about the vocal minority on sites where they are trying to modify the game beyond the officially released patches. Steam/Valve doesn't worry about anything other than the patches officially available for a game, not beta patches. If devs/publishers want something patched they need to use the proper process to do so - And if they do it works great thru steam. I've never once had a single issue with a patch applied directly thru steam.
From a business perspective I applaud them for their stance on unofficial mods/patches. These are not steam issues, but issues with individual devs/publishers that are releasing crapware as it is. Take this particular issue, this is some bad work on the tutorials that somehow got released. These guys are trying to apply a 'fix' that isn't part of the official product as of yet.
Valve/steam is going after a slice of the gaming public that just wants to play their games. If they went through and started to auto-apply beta patches they'd end up with a larger portion of gamers frusterated.
Look the real reason steam does soo well is that they have great specials. Their pricing is far and above better any of their competitors. Steam runs a regular weekend deal as well as occasional 1 or 2 day weekday deals as well as big holiday sales. Gamersgate and Direct2Drive and Impulse just can't compete with the sale prices from steam. I know, I've bought from all 4 of them and hands down I've got a lot more on steam than from any other. For example, HOI3 on GG is still 30$, whereas it was 7.50$ on steam. Even when GG has a sale, it very rarely gets down to the same price (let alone lower) than steam's. Another example, Torchlight - was on sale during the holidays on all 3 major sites, all had it for 10$, except steam which had it at 5$.
Not only do they provide exceptionally good sale prices, but they make the game install/uninstall/storage process really really simple and muss free. Just a couple of clicks, a wait overnight, and bam I've got a game installed and patched up. A few clicks later, bam its uninstalled and stored remotely for me. If the game requires a serial, it pops up a window with it when I launch the game and even provides a button to copy it to the clipboard.
Ohh, and for the record I've had more problems with downloads from gamersgate than steam, plus some of my direct2drive games are no longer available for me to download which means if I lose my install files, I lose the games (I do like gamersgate as well, they just need to get cheaper).
GoG does a good job, however that is part of their service and they are selling games that are well beyond their patch cycle. They are not directly in competition with steam for the most part.
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| 28 DEC 2009 at 7:08am |
bboyer66Colonel


Posts : 4709 Joined: 17 APR 2006 Location: US, Pittsburgh PA
Status : Offline | I have over 30 games from Steam, and I have never had a problem once with any of the games. The best thing was when I built my new computer earlier this year, all those games were ready to be downloaded without me having to find a bunch of disks. That being said I do like Gamers Gate better. They keep a record of the games you have bought and let you download them at any time without starting an application (like Steam). Another thing that is good about Steam is that they auto patch most of there games. Sometimes I will see a game has a new patch, and when I go and check Steam, it has already patched the game.
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| 28 DEC 2009 at 7:57am |
Azzurri

Banned for 15399 days
Posts : 9755 Joined: 24 NOV 2009 Location: 0, Kentucky
Status : Offline | ^Well, for all you "career defenders" out there try buying HOI 3 v1.03 from STEAM with the the latest patch and the tutorial simply won't run. It sure in the hell 'aint my fault this patch/version blows monkey turds...I paid the money, at the very least it should be patched so the tutorial runs and you don't have to configure a work-around. I realize on this thread that Bison successfully installed the patch and can run the tutuorial but other's (myself included) are bitching here and on the Paradox forum's because it is just that-A DAMN PARADOX.......some it works for, some not so much!
edit: BTW, I have 10 other games from STEAMED and they all work fine....Johan can you hook a brother up????????????????
It is better to die by a swords quick thrust than to be impaled for a lifetime upon the sharp tongue of a woman.-Grimjack
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| 28 DEC 2009 at 7:58am |
KevlarSocksColonel


Posts : 5988 Joined: 11 SEP 2005
Status : Offline | I havent had any real problems with Steam. Very rarely it has patched itself to a buggy state. Its fixed fairly fast. That hasnt happened in a long time. Looking at the peak user rate over the last few days they have over 2.3 million users logged in. Thats a lot of money being made. The prices are good.
Edit: I have 39 games through steam BTW. Thats enough for me to have no hesitation getting more if the game is good.
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| 28 DEC 2009 at 8:04am |
elcidce91General


Posts : 9131 Joined: 29 JUL 2004 Location: US
Status : Offline | I bought Tropico 3 on Steam Christmas day and it would not accept the key I was given. After a few days I tried the key atgain and it was accepted. This was the first game that I even had a problem with. I wonder if there is some delay on their end with the registration info and keys especially during the holiday sales.
Azzuri, I would try again with your key. It worked for me.

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| 28 DEC 2009 at 8:07am |
Azzurri

Banned for 15399 days
Posts : 9755 Joined: 24 NOV 2009 Location: 0, Kentucky
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By elcidce91
I bought Tropico 3 on Steam Christmas day and it would not accept the key I was given. After a few days I tried the key atgain and it was accepted. This was the first game that I even had a problem with. I wonder if there is some delay on their end with the registration info and keys especially during the holiday sales.
Azzuri, I would try again with your key. It worked for me.
The game/campaigns runs fine...just the tutorial crashes to desktop immediately upon activation. Thanks for the positive vibe though....
It is better to die by a swords quick thrust than to be impaled for a lifetime upon the sharp tongue of a woman.-Grimjack
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| 28 DEC 2009 at 8:24am |
Great AjaxCenturion


Posts : 508 Joined: 29 NOV 2006 Location: US, Oklahoma
Status : Offline | Career Defender here with 50 games on Steam and I can't get the tutorial to run in Hoi3. I had no problem when it first came out but I can the normal campaign to work fine,
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| 28 DEC 2009 at 8:38am |
GusingtonGeneral


Posts : 18089 Joined: 16 AUG 2004 Location: US, USMA
Status : Offline | In my experience, Steam, combined with Vista, slows my PC down a lot. That's my main complaint but there are others that I have but will spare you. So where I can, I avoid using Steam out of personal preference. Doesn't mean I knock others who love the service. Ross had a good point above. To each his own.
I'm glad my character uses a shield because I may be taking a bashing here soon.
- Rayfer

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| 28 DEC 2009 at 8:48am |
ghostryderColonel


Posts : 6934 Joined: 4 MAY 2004 Location: US, Texas
Status : Offline | The majority of posts I read is either Steam NOT updating the game or Steam updating the game when the option is turned off.
I find this not a minorty. There's got to be 15 pages of posts about this regarding ETW and 8 pages about it doing it with King Aurthur. It's not the same guy posting over and over-but rather most game owners experiencing the same problem.
Now if jarhead and others find themselves the exception to the rule good for them...but i do not see them in the majority here. I'd for one like to see a thread about a steam release that stayed on the topic of the game instead of turning into a tech help support thread-just one release-one thread. I've never seen it. Whenever that happens- then someone can convince me this is a good system.
I'ver got to say I have never had a problem with Steam and I've bought a lot of games from them. Now I'm not saying everyone else has experienced the same, but why would I judge a service based on other's experiences? There are a lot of people satisfied with Steam, Gamersgate, D2D etc. There are also a lot who prefer to go down the physical copies route. It's a matter of choice and experience. Why do people who don't like it feel the need to put down those that do?
It seems the defenders take it personally. no where-EVER-have I seen a single post directed at a Steam user- just steam itself and the service.
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| 28 DEC 2009 at 8:56am |
GusingtonGeneral


Posts : 18089 Joined: 16 AUG 2004 Location: US, USMA
Status : Offline | ^The second instance you posted above...Steam updating with auto-update turned off...is exactly what happened to me.
I was told it occurred because Steam itself was updated, which caused auto-update to revert to its default update state, which is 'on.'
It was more of an annoyance to me, but for people who mod a lot it is a big deal as it futzes with all the changes they have made and make the game in question unplayable.
Again YMMV.
I'm glad my character uses a shield because I may be taking a bashing here soon.
- Rayfer

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| 28 DEC 2009 at 8:57am |
Bison36Colonel


Posts : 6360 Joined: 31 MAR 2009 Location: US, Sweet Air of Freedom
Status : Offline | I'll say it once again, if you tutorial is not working use the fix from the link I posted earlier. It works. First time I used it did not so I verified files and re-extracted the fix into my HOI3 folder. It worked. Don't know what else to say.
I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power, than by violent and sudden usurpations - James Madison
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| 28 DEC 2009 at 9:00am |
BismarckColonel


Posts : 4434 Joined: 31 MAY 2001 Location: US, Wisconsin
Status : Offline | If the tutorial is your only problem, don't sweat it. The thing is far too cute and utterly useless. I've heard that the game still needs major work.
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| 28 DEC 2009 at 9:00am |
Azzurri

Banned for 15399 days
Posts : 9755 Joined: 24 NOV 2009 Location: 0, Kentucky
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Bison36
I'll say it once again, if you tutorial is not working use the fix from the link I posted earlier. It works. First time I used it did not so I verified files and re-extracted the fix into my HOI3 folder. It worked. Don't know what else to say.
Sorry...but how do you re-extract files to the HOI3 folder?
It is better to die by a swords quick thrust than to be impaled for a lifetime upon the sharp tongue of a woman.-Grimjack
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| 28 DEC 2009 at 9:01am |
ghostryderColonel


Posts : 6934 Joined: 4 MAY 2004 Location: US, Texas
Status : Offline | See that's an anymoron Gus- you tell Steam to NOT auto update and Steam auto updates? There's an 'offline mode' where this happens too. HUH? Read that again. There an OFFLINE mode where this happens. So.......if I'm really offline then I'm not connected...so how is this possible?
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