assault battles need mm rebalancing a little, but it is adding more variety.

A lot of players, including me,  are getting tons of crashes since 7.4 went live.  No acknowledgement in the forums that the devs are even aware of the problem much lees working on a fix.

I've crashed a few times since 7.4 went live. So far it's just been between battles.

Yep, I've had one crash, too. 

Matchmaker changes coming in 7.5:  http://worldoftanks.com/news/1422-matchmaker-changes-coming-75/

Now if the matchmaker would just pit premium tanks against premium tanks and standard tanks against standard tanks, I would be happy.

So they are finally narrowing the tier spread in battles?  This was always one of my big complaints with the game (the other was the sheer idiocy of the average random player).  I might just have to try it again - I haven't played in almost a year.

Originally Posted By Greybriar (14 JUL 2012 2:09pm)

Now if the matchmaker would just pit premium tanks against premium tanks and standard tanks against standard tanks, I would be happy.

You do understand that all premium tanks are worse than an upgraded non-premium tank of the same tier right? Playing a premium tank is already a painful experience as they are all outmatched at their tier and have significant weaknesses. This is how WoT is set up and anyone who buys a premium hopefully knows this going in. 

Matching premium vs premium would make it a little easier on premium tanks drivers since they wouldn't have to face the more powerful regular tanks - but what's the point really? It would be a little silly I think.

Originally Posted By jjdenver (14 JUL 2012 11:45pm)

Originally Posted By Greybriar (14 JUL 2012 2:09pm)

Now if the matchmaker would just pit premium tanks against premium tanks and standard tanks against standard tanks, I would be happy.

 

You do understand that all premium tanks are worse than an upgraded non-premium tank of the same tier right? Playing a premium tank is already a painful experience as they are all outmatched at their tier and have significant weaknesses. This is how WoT is set up and anyone who buys a premium hopefully knows this going in. 

 

Matching premium vs premium would make it a little easier on premium tanks drivers since they wouldn't have to face the more powerful regular tanks - but what's the point really? It would be a little silly I think.

 

 

Type59 is not outmatched by its tier 8 counterparts from what i've seen...Lowe yes, KV5 has awsome armor....and they make way too many credits compared to premium accounts.

Originally Posted By FlickJax (15 JUL 2012 2:07am)

Originally Posted By jjdenver (14 JUL 2012 11:45pm)

Originally Posted By Greybriar (14 JUL 2012 2:09pm)

Now if the matchmaker would just pit premium tanks against premium tanks and standard tanks against standard tanks, I would be happy.

 

You do understand that all premium tanks are worse than an upgraded non-premium tank of the same tier right? Playing a premium tank is already a painful experience as they are all outmatched at their tier and have significant weaknesses. This is how WoT is set up and anyone who buys a premium hopefully knows this going in. 

 

Matching premium vs premium would make it a little easier on premium tanks drivers since they wouldn't have to face the more powerful regular tanks - but what's the point really? It would be a little silly I think.

 

 

 

Type59 is not outmatched by its tier 8 counterparts from what i've seen...Lowe yes, KV5 has awsome armor....and they make way too many credits compared to premium accounts.

 

Premium tanks were designed to give more credits. Premium tanks help offset the repair cost that tier 8 and above incur for repairs and buying ammo. Premium tanks have always been part of the economic plan to extract more money from players for a free game(LOL). Free my ass. Anyway it is and has been "pay to win". Every winning team I bet uses gold rounds. I know I do when playing in clan wars. What I don't get is that they have contests every week that give you gold for winning or competiting ie: model building, artwork, and tanks battles yet few ever sign up to try and win.

When the new rules to matchmaker go in you will find low level premium tanks able to hold their own in battle or even dominate. No more tier 5 tanks put into tier 8 battles or tier 6 with Tier 9 heavies.

I look at the game this way. Dinner and a movie cost $20.00 for 4 hours of fun. I can spend that same 20 and have a month of premium or train my crew to 100 percent. My entertainment dollar spent my way. Isn't the free enterprise system wonderful!

Type59 may be dropping down to tier 7 in 7.5 oh dear....

Originally Posted By FlickJax (15 JUL 2012 2:07am)

Originally Posted By jjdenver (14 JUL 2012 11:45pm)

Originally Posted By Greybriar (14 JUL 2012 2:09pm)

Now if the matchmaker would just pit premium tanks against premium tanks and standard tanks against standard tanks, I would be happy.

 

You do understand that all premium tanks are worse than an upgraded non-premium tank of the same tier right? Playing a premium tank is already a painful experience as they are all outmatched at their tier and have significant weaknesses. This is how WoT is set up and anyone who buys a premium hopefully knows this going in. 

 

Matching premium vs premium would make it a little easier on premium tanks drivers since they wouldn't have to face the more powerful regular tanks - but what's the point really? It would be a little silly I think.

 

 

 

Type59 is not outmatched by its tier 8 counterparts from what i've seen...Lowe yes, KV5 has awsome armor....and they make way too many credits compared to premium accounts.

 

T59 is actually outmatched I think. It's the best of the premiums for sure but its' hull is very easy to penetrate and ammo racks are common, it also has terrible acceleration so if you track it or it stops it's pretty easy to knock out. Its' only hope is to never stop moving but it has a gun that can't shoot well on the move. T59's don't scare me a bit - I love killing them.

Premiums do make a lot of money - that's the only thing they are good for, but they are terrible tanks and lose matches. The KV5 has lots of armor but HUGE weak spots that make it easy to pen and its' gun is crap. If you're having trouble beating a KV-5 either circle it to death (turret and hull turn extremely slow), or just shoot the little R2-D2 thing on the front of it, any tank can pen that easily.

Despite their money making abilities, premiums are crap tanks in terms of performance vs other equal tier tanks. The only advantage they have is that they start out "upgraded" unlike regular tanks of their tier that have to start out stock then spend either stored exp or grind exp to upgrade their components. Of course once upgraded the regular tanks are far better.

Originally Posted By Lee Elmendorf (14 JUL 2012 10:10am)

Matchmaker changes coming in 7.5:  http://worldoftanks.com/news/1422-matchmaker-changes-coming-75/

Bleh.   Doesn't look like they're doing much.  Looks like it'll still be the same failmaker for the most part.

My major ragequit reason was being murderized by a match full of tanks two and three tiers higher than me.   Knocking off the three higher is a step in the right direction, though.  If it actually works as laid out in those charts.. but I don't think those have been hard limits in the past, either.

Since 7.4, I've had a couple crashes during the load up of a battle and a larger number of crashes when leaving a battle.  I just figured that was a sign it was time to do something else.

7.5 has been live for about a week. I have played few matches. Seems like the more they add the less i want to play.

I'm closing in on 5000 battles (all PUG's) and my enthusiasm is dwindling too.  No interest in the higher level vehicles (my highest is tier VI IIRC).  Had a few different tier VII's but sold them all.   My dabbling with the new French stuff did nothing for me either.  Maybe when the British arrive I'll get excited again.  Or maybe I'll just switch to Planetside 2 and Guild Wars 2 and give WoT a long break.

Looks like you guys are getting tired of it already.  A big challenge to them to keep you interested.

I myself have quit the game a long time ago.

Originally Posted By Lee Elmendorf (7 AUG 2012 2:53pm)

I'm closing in on 5000 battles (all PUG's) and my enthusiasm is dwindling too.  No interest in the higher level vehicles (my highest is tier VI IIRC).  Had a few different tier VII's but sold them all.   My dabbling with the new French stuff did nothing for me either.  Maybe when the British arrive I'll get excited again.  Or maybe I'll just switch to Planetside 2 and Guild Wars 2 and give WoT a long break.

The fun factor dropped quite a bit for me, too, when I got into Tier 7.   I became a simple chew toy for the higher tiers that were always in my matches at that point and if I got murderized by them before getting in any track hits or wotnot then the repair & rearm bill would be higher than my profit for the match.

I've got no problems with the tiers, it's just the lack of variety right now that's killing my fun.  The new assault and encounter modes helped a bit, and the new maps (Though I still have yet to play on two of the latest ones).  Clan wars is a joke honestly.  They really need to open up more parts of the map and have lower tier areas where anyone can get in and use that portion of the game.  Yeah, I'm in a clan that can field a full tier X team, and it's painful to me to see a newer clan trying to do anything in CW get stomped because they had the audacity to roll in with a few tier IX or VIII tanks.  

Honestly, the top CW matches are generally boring anyway, since it's always the same crap.  I would love to see tier V-VI max areas where even the smaller and newer clans would have a chance.  I like those matches more anyway.  Maneuvering and aiming matter much more when you're playing low to mid tier tanks than when you've got a full team of tier X guns loaded out with gold rounds.  

Not sure what else they can do to spice things up honestly, they're locked into their model.   Doesn't matter that much to me anyway.  I get in for CW then I'm off to play Crusader Kings anyway.  The only thing keeping me in that much is not wanting to leave the clan hanging.

So what are the "new assault and encounter" modes?

Originally Posted By Nefaro (9 AUG 2012 8:53am)

So what are the "new assault and encounter" modes?

They took some of the maps and made a new base in between the original bases (which are removed) along one side of the map.  In an assault one side defends the new base and the other has to take it or kill all defenders.  In an encounter both sides start in a neutral corner and have to either occupy the single base or kill the other side.

Im pretty sure if you guys played in CLan Wars, your interest would not be as diminished. 

Clan Wars is the meat of the game and everything and anything else you do is preperation to play in it. If I just played in pub matches every day I am sure I would have quit the game by now.

I think Sparv2 just stated why clan wars is the suck.

But yeah i quit nearly a year ago.

Originally Posted By Lee Elmendorf (9 AUG 2012 9:24am)

Originally Posted By Nefaro (9 AUG 2012 8:53am)

So what are the "new assault and encounter" modes?

 

They took some of the maps and made a new base in between the original bases (which are removed) along one side of the map.  In an assault one side defends the new base and the other has to take it or kill all defenders.  In an encounter both sides start in a neutral corner and have to either occupy the single base or kill the other side.

 

 

Sounds like it'd be a nice change.  And it's good they're adding some different modes now. 

The crashing reports doesn't really convince me to fire it up again, just yet.  Did they ever get that big Soviet tree rearrangement done?  Wasn't that supposed to be two updates ago?  Was it in this one?

I was getting crashes pretty regularly there for a while but they are gone now.  AFAIK it's fixed.

The Soviet tree got rearranged and more vehicles have been added to every tree.