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| 9 SEP 2010 at 9:02am |
GusingtonGeneral


Posts : 18089 Joined: 16 AUG 2004 Location: US, USMA
Status : Offline | So the player can control Japan or China...I wish I could get deeper into EUIII, this may be the Asian history game I have been waiting for forever.
Are they looking to compete directly with Creative Assembly?
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| 9 SEP 2010 at 9:32am |
yoshinoCenturion


Posts : 110 Joined: 22 APR 2008
Status : Online | Wow! I will buy this expansion definitely.
I guess there is a trend of Japan medieval game there? [sm=charging.gif]
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| 9 SEP 2010 at 9:47am |
tgb123Commander


Posts : 1474 Joined: 13 NOV 2009
Status : Offline | I'll be watching this, although can you really call it "Europa Universalis" if it's set in Asia? Also requires EU3 Complete? What if you bought all the expansions separately?
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| 9 SEP 2010 at 9:48am |
TpekCommander


Posts : 2923 Joined: 29 NOV 2009
Status : Offline | A 4th expansion for EU3?
They better not make EU4 and drop all those implemented features, ala Sims style.
It seems from the trailer that the expansion changes map textures/graphics. It makes it look quite more like Vicky 2.
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| 9 SEP 2010 at 9:55am |
mauletCenturion


Posts : 43 Joined: 2 MAY 2008
Status : Offline | nothing new...
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| 9 SEP 2010 at 11:09am |
MartokColonel


Posts : 4028 Joined: 4 JUN 2005 Location: US, Minnesota
Status : Offline | Hmm. I know I should be excited about this, but I'm not really feeling it. Partially, I think, because I already have Shogun Total War, and partially because this feels like a very limited expansion that's essentially focused on just one region. I think I'll be playing the "wait and see" game with this one.
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| 9 SEP 2010 at 11:25am |
XzarCenturion


Posts : 105 Joined: 30 OCT 2009
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Tpek
A 4th expansion for EU3?
They better not make EU4 and drop all those implemented features, ala Sims style.
If we take Hoi3 vanilla as an example, the base game does not have all the features of Hoi2's expansions. No expanded timeline etc.
However, Hoi3 does bring some new cool features to the table such as the supply system. So I posit that EU4 will follow the same model.
Hoi3 and EU3 uses the Clausewitz engine. I suspect that EU4 will use a brand new engine, possibly one that takes advantage of multi-core processors. It takes a lot of time and money to develop a new engine, so it's unlikely that EU4 will ship with every EU3 feature, that would cost a lot to develop if you include the engine cost. Paradox needs to break even too.
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| 9 SEP 2010 at 11:28am |
GreybriarCommander


Posts : 2704 Joined: 30 MAY 2008 Location: US
Status : Offline | My Europa Universalis III: Complete is becoming more and more incomplete. [:@]
This war is not about slavery. --Robert E. Lee
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| 9 SEP 2010 at 12:00pm |
RayferCommander


Posts : 1857 Joined: 19 FEB 2006 Location: US, Michigan
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Greybriar
My Europa Universalis III: Complete is becoming more and more incomplete. [:@]
LOL....my feelings exactly.
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| 9 SEP 2010 at 12:13pm |
JohanCenturion


Posts : 92 Joined: 11 JAN 2004 Location: SE
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Greybriar
My Europa Universalis III: Complete is becoming more and more incomplete. [:@]
We shouldn't have ever called it complete...
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| 9 SEP 2010 at 12:28pm |
KnaveryCenturion


Posts : 930 Joined: 10 JAN 2005 Location: US
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Johan
Originally Posted By Greybriar
My Europa Universalis III: Complete is becoming more and more incomplete. [:@]
We shouldn't have ever called it complete...
Well it was at the time. You could call the next complete edition "Europa Universalis III: Complete Complete".
A composer is a guy who goes around forcing his will on unsuspecting air molecules, often with the assistance of unsuspecting musicians. -- Frank Zappa
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| 9 SEP 2010 at 12:37pm |
KriegspielerCenturion


Posts : 643 Joined: 5 JAN 2005
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Xzar
Hoi3 and EU3 uses the Clausewitz engine. I suspect that EU4 will use a brand new engine, possibly one that takes advantage of multi-core processors. It takes a lot of time and money to develop a new engine, so it's unlikely that EU4 will ship with every EU3 feature, that would cost a lot to develop if you include the engine cost. Paradox needs to break even too.
I would surprised if this did not turn out to be true. I expect that Crusader Kings 2 will be the last "Clausewitz" game and then we'll have a new engine.
Getting too old to do this!
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| 9 SEP 2010 at 1:08pm |
KingCenturion


Posts : 21 Joined: 13 AUG 2010
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Johan
Originally Posted By Greybriar
My Europa Universalis III: Complete is becoming more and more incomplete. [:@]
We shouldn't have ever called it complete...
Mistakes were made
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| 9 SEP 2010 at 1:10pm |
Arctic BlastCommander


Posts : 2503 Joined: 9 APR 2007 Location: CA, Alberta
Status : Offline | Definitely intrigued to see what this ends up consisting of.
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| 9 SEP 2010 at 1:38pm |
AAshbery76Centurion


Posts : 965 Joined: 15 MAR 2004 Location: UK
Status : Offline | How will EU4 compete?
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| 9 SEP 2010 at 3:40pm |
FenwickCenturion


Posts : 141 Joined: 29 MAR 2007
Status : Offline | As I recall, Paradox did an Asia-centric version of EU 1 (or maybe 2). It was mostly available in the Far East, but it was included in an anthology available in the West.
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| 9 SEP 2010 at 4:24pm |
Fire of DestructionCenturion


Posts : 259 Joined: 22 NOV 2005
Status : Offline |
Not that impressed and a bit disappointed quite frankly. Before watching the video I assumed that they were making something similar to EU Rome. EU Rome was stand alone and set in it's own unique world. This game just announced seems nothing more than a booster, not even an expansion, to EU3. It appears that there just gonna expand the Asian part of the map a little. They had a similar expansion for EU2.
What Paradox should do is make a stand alone game like that of EU Rome. With the map as East Asia set between the Han Dynasty up to the Ming dynasty. Perhaps they chose not to do this because EU Rome was perceived as a failure, but I liked it with the Vae Victus expansion pack. Here is another example of the failure of the gaming community and not Paradox. If people had accepted EU Rome for what it was and not pissed and moaned about how it was not EU4, perhaps paradox would have enough confidence to venture out and make the game I described.
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| 9 SEP 2010 at 4:31pm |
rossntuCommander


Posts : 1272 Joined: 24 DEC 2008 Location: 0
Status : Offline | I think that whether I get this will depend on whether it adds anything worthwhile to gameplay mechanics etc. As I have never been tempted to play in that area of the world, I can't see myself starting now.
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| 9 SEP 2010 at 7:01pm |
MartokColonel


Posts : 4028 Joined: 4 JUN 2005 Location: US, Minnesota
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By ross_ntu
I think that whether I get this will depend on whether it adds anything worthwhile to gameplay mechanics etc.
Same here. If EU3W offers improvements to the game overall (in addition to the Chinese/Japanese-oriented features), then I may still get it. If not, however, I'll probably pass.
"I happen to believe that both parties deserve a good scouring with a metal brush and sent to their room without reelection" - Steelgrave

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| 11 SEP 2010 at 9:12am |
UlfangCenturion


Posts : 855 Joined: 27 SEP 2005 Location: UK, Lancashire
Status : Offline | *yawns* one EUIII expansion I'll be avoiding methinks
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| 11 SEP 2010 at 9:20am |
Bison36Colonel


Posts : 6360 Joined: 31 MAR 2009 Location: US, Sweet Air of Freedom
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Fire of Destruction
If people had accepted EU Rome for what it was and not pissed and moaned about how it was not EU4
EU Rome is my favorite EU game. EU:R with VV is pretty good game. I wish they'd make an expansion to add more provinces and enlarge the world map.
I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power, than by violent and sudden usurpations - James Madison
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| 11 SEP 2010 at 10:22am |
UlfangCenturion


Posts : 855 Joined: 27 SEP 2005 Location: UK, Lancashire
Status : Offline | EUIII would probably be my favourite but I also love EU Rome. I think when CK2 comes out that will become my favourite though
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| 12 SEP 2010 at 6:36am |
AAshbery76Centurion


Posts : 965 Joined: 15 MAR 2004 Location: UK
Status : Offline | I will get it for sure,just for the pretty new map.
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| 13 SEP 2010 at 9:12am |
OstfrontCenturion


Posts : 169 Joined: 13 JUN 2007
Status : Online | EU III is one of my favorite games I will most likely get it.
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