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#1 22 FEB 2011 at 2:44pm
con Centurion Posts : 670 Joined: 23 MAR 2005 Status : Offline	OK I was getting quite jazzed reading the AAR for battlefronts new Combat Mission Battle for Normandy. I really enjoyed the Shock Force series (still have to buy the NATO expansion) and thought that they had done a good job re working the AI and tactics as the code matured. So I for one am going to buy this on preorder when it comes out. I have yet to be disapointed by any of the Combat Mission series. Who else is on the bandwagon with me? who is going to leap in and buy it on faith before the reviews and blather from the fanboys and detractors start heating up the forums? How much are people looking forward to this title or is it not even on your radar screen? Con PS I respect the right to people not buying it for DRM reasons but lets not make this an argument about DRM and or Battlefronts distribution methodology. If you don't want to buy it for those reasons that is totally your right and no need to rehash those arguments. [b]Dr. Venture[/b]: Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery? EGO sum ex muneris quod mos respondeo ut vestri nuntius ut EGO reverto
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#2 22 FEB 2011 at 2:52pm
Knavery Centurion Posts : 930 Joined: 10 JAN 2005 Location: US Status : Offline	I'm in the maybe crowd. I loved CMBO, CMBB, and CMAK. I didn't care for the others. If it's more like those I might take the plunge. A composer is a guy who goes around forcing his will on unsuspecting air molecules, often with the assistance of unsuspecting musicians. -- Frank Zappa
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#3 22 FEB 2011 at 2:52pm
Knavery Centurion Posts : 930 Joined: 10 JAN 2005 Location: US Status : Offline	I'm in the maybe crowd. I loved CMBO, CMBB, and CMAK. I didn't care for the others. If it's more like those I might take the plunge. A composer is a guy who goes around forcing his will on unsuspecting air molecules, often with the assistance of unsuspecting musicians. -- Frank Zappa
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#4 22 FEB 2011 at 2:53pm
Cyrano Centurion Posts : 313 Joined: 16 MAY 2005 Location: US, Wisconsin Status : Offline	I love the CM series like few others. Easy yes. Jim "Gentlemen songsters off on a spree, damned from here to eternity, God have mercy on such as we..." -- The Whiffenpoofs
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#5 22 FEB 2011 at 2:55pm
Seytan Centurion Posts : 554 Joined: 23 JUL 2009 Location: US Status : Offline	I plan on buying it. I loved the original and this can only be a improvement and I like what ive seen in the way of media available regarding same. I did not buy the last two CMs though. As thier premise didnt appeal to me. This return to Normandy is what ive been waiting for.
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#6 22 FEB 2011 at 3:02pm
tevans Centurion Posts : 94 Joined: 3 MAR 2008 Status : Online	I won't be buying as long as they use that stupid eLicense DRM. When I buy something it's mine. I don't want to have to ask permission to use it. Loved CMBO, CMBB and CMAK. Guess I'll just have to keep playing them.
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#7 22 FEB 2011 at 3:03pm
Wodin Banned for 1622 days Posts : 2325 Joined: 18 JAN 2006 Location: UK, Liverpool Status : Offline	I shall be getting it make no mistake...highlight of my gaming year...infact I think this will be my all time favourite game.
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#8 22 FEB 2011 at 3:09pm
Kid Commander Posts : 1203 Joined: 18 JAN 2006 Location: US, FL Status : Offline	Looks sweet USN Ret.
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#9 22 FEB 2011 at 3:26pm
Johnners Centurion Posts : 169 Joined: 19 SEP 2008 Status : Offline	This is a toughie for me as this is coming out at the same time as CLiffs of Dover and RO2 - all three are must buys for me, and I can't really justify the expense...
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#10 22 FEB 2011 at 3:53pm
IronX Centurion Posts : 967 Joined: 25 JUN 2011 Location: CA, British Columbia Status : Offline	Yes. The day it's released. This will be an instant classic. I can even overlook that the subject once again is Normandy and that it does not include Commonwealth troops, although fortunately they will be in the first add-on. As for when it will be available, that's anyone's guess. I did read, however, that it will be released four to six weeks after it's available for pre-order. So perhaps late April or May? [sm=scratchchin.gif]
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#11 22 FEB 2011 at 4:00pm
Major Defect Centurion Posts : 303 Joined: 5 MAR 2005 Status : Offline	Yes. Will wait a little however following my Shock Force experience, at least until the first patch.
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#12 22 FEB 2011 at 5:31pm
gabeeg Centurion Posts : 317 Joined: 20 JAN 2010 Location: US, California Status : Offline	I will not be getting it. I own CMBB and just have not played it enough to get comfortable with it but like what I have seen (it is a fairly recent purchase for me). I also own CMSF and played that a bit more...but just did not grab me...too busy for me but maybe I just need to get more comfortable with it. The reason I will not be getting CM Normandy is because my poor laptop just does not have the horse power. I have to turn down CMSF a bit to get it to play decently.. gabeeg
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#13 22 FEB 2011 at 5:41pm
collegeprof86 Centurion Posts : 59 Joined: 21 MAR 2010 Status : Online	i will never buy anything from battlefront again. After purchasing some very cool games in the past, like Strat command, and the various expansions, i purchased pt boats and theatre or war kursk, when they 1st came out. Within a few months, i transitioned to a new computer, and when i reinstalled the software i had archived, i had lost the license keys. After 4 months of emailing i finally gave up in disgust over the lack of positive outcome from their technical support. After getting burned for over 100 bucks on 2 games i cannot play all because of their DRM, I will never purchase from them again. btw, Matrix at least keeps your registration keys forever, and i can still today recover mine through them years after purchasing the games, something i was unable to do with battefront just few (less than 6 months) after digitally downloading and paying by card for the 2 games. Sorry battlefront, while the games look cool, i will never give you the business any longer - you lost me Making the world a better place UNICEF, Detroit Rescue Mission Ministries, and Council of Indian Nations. Do your part to make the world a better place, not just here, but around the world
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#14 22 FEB 2011 at 6:31pm
Wodin Banned for 1622 days Posts : 2325 Joined: 18 JAN 2006 Location: UK, Liverpool Status : Offline	*Originally Posted By Johnners* This is a toughie for me as this is coming out at the same time as CLiffs of Dover and RO2 - all three are must buys for me, and I can't really justify the expense... RO2 is a long way off yet...melee hasn't been implemented nor are they at beta testing stage...
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#15 22 FEB 2011 at 7:08pm
destraex Global Moderator Posts : 6188 Joined: 8 MAY 2001 Location: AT, 3D Status : Offline	http://www.battlefront....d.php?t=95052&page=3 read half way down. I went to a preview of this game in Sydney last weekend. A poorly written write up ensues: " Better late than never, my feedback from the Sydney preview; I greatly enjoyed meeting fellow Combat Mission players. I can say that they are certainly a cut above what I have met for other more cliche computer games. Others have mentioned the intro along with what generally happened on the day, so I will skip this. Instead I will get straight on to some of my observations. The terrain is great and presents many more challenges than the shock force terrain did due to the more complicated nature of what Normandy geography is. There are low hedges, high hedges. Infantry pass through hedges through small openings that are somewhat hard to spot. This gives the effect of the hedge appearing unbroken as it should. It also means that men path through it by almost "feeling" their way through. Also as it should be. German tanks cannot break hedges, however in the short skirmish we played our ze Germans were able to use pioneers to punch holes in the hedge enabling tanks to fire through the hedge. We did not test whether this meant that a tank can then drive through the hole. Infantry seemed to be able to fire through hedges somewhat by setting up directly behind then. Since infantry cannot sit in the hedge itself this makes sense. We were shown a few of the maps and in one ridges were shown to be both highly visible and almost invisible depending on how the map maker tiles them. Another was a very large map with a massive complex landscape. It looked a little like Arhnem with nice looking water complete fords and bridges. The bridges were mined in this scenario. Pre-Marked Artillery markers were also visible. Artillery is a product of ww2 and can only be called by an FO or a unit commander. Otherwise it works fairly identically to what we currently see in CMSF. As the Germans Fenris and I hit the emergency, heavy buttons a lot With devestating results. Command Structure is vastly different to that of CMSF for obvuous reasons. For instance, for a infantry unit standing next to a tank to point out a target they must use their radio to call the infantry commander and have the sighting filter back down the chain of command into the tank's radio. At least from what I saw of the German side. In some scenarios it was also possible to cherry pick your formations and then add "special" units under any of the command trees. For instance choose a infantry unit and a panzer grenadier unit and attach a king tiger to the panzer grenadier unit from the special unit pool. This King Tiger would then report to the Panzer Grenadier unit commander under his personal command Vs the over all army commander for that mission. The last thing we did hands on was play a quick battle. I think this took us around 30 minutes. Fenris and I in command of the German forces and Willight and Bodkin in charge of an American force protecting a village. The map was one with many maze like hedges. A road down the centre entered a town that dominated the map, the road exited town and then forked in two directions off the end of the map. On the forked end their was a river to one side with a ford allowing one to cross to the other side. All round the town were hedges in a maze. Some hedge squares were filled with forest, but most were just grassed. Each hedge row had 4 or 5 places a side for infantry to squeez through a man at a time. I thought the holes were really neatly done. It looked so natural. The germans started on single narrow road at the end of town. Two panthers and a few HTs with infantry. The tanks could not move through the hedge and so were forced down the road into the centre of town. This meant the Ami would know exactly where to wait with every AT weapon at their disposal. We dismounted our Panzer Grens and forked out on each side of the road probing for enemy positions and ways through the hedge maze. On the right the infantry were stopped in their tracks by a particulary large field between hedges. Many Ami fox holes had been dug just behind the opposite hedge. Apart from the the village had clear view into the field. Most of the Grens on the right with hunt orders did not make it past here. On the left even though the infantry met with fairly heavy fire from the town and hedges while flanking we were finding our way through the hedges. Grenades were flying back and forth over hedges and pioneers were making large holes in hedge rows. Meanwhile the two panthers approaches town peaking around corners and feeling out the main road. Since we were playing on the medium difficulty setting sighting the enemy is a little more lenient and the FO had a field day plastering the town and the trees on the right with emergency heavy barrages. Fenris and I pretty much used everything we had as quickly as we had. It was a small town and their was no sense waiting until we were entering town to use the arty. Several AT guns were disposed of this way along with many infantry units hiding is fox holes dug all around town. Mark had a little chuckle at one of our Panthers doing what he called "kissing" enemy infantry in a building 5m away from its main gun. I was using the panthers as close combat assault vehicles. Very unconventional and a good way to get them killed. Fenris and I were lucky though being cautious about how many lines of fire were exposed to our panthers at once. Shortly after this more German forces started to arrive. Another Panther and some more HT loads of infantry.Fenris and I decided that the left offered less resistance and sent most of the infantry that way. Setting up a flanking tri-pod heavy MG on the way. Firing into the town. The infantry made good head way past a few hedge rows and blew holes allowing a tank to move over and fire into the flank of the town as well. While covered by the tank the infantry moved in form the left flank and took the centre of town. Mean while down the centre road, half tracks, which had no particular use in this battle. Not being able to move through hedges and not able to withstand the punishment down the main road. They were used in a penal battalion style lead scout and mobile shield capacity. Much to the horror of Mark who was spectating on a large flatscreen TV. A Panther and support upon making it to the end of town started beating up on a re-enforcement column coming in for the Americans. Three of four M10 AT carraiges, including one coming down the flank on the opposite fork to the panther's direct right were destroyed. American Greyhounds and their sister ACs with the 50cals also got cleaned up in fairly short order. Not long after this the Americans threw in the towel. The Germans declaring a major victory. The scenario was one chosen at random by Marc and undoubtedly the Americans were completely outgunned. It served its purpose however, demonstrating a lot of the games functionality and feel. The terrain and models actually imho look better than the screenshots can do justice. I recommend that anybody who likes shock force and ww2 go along to a Normandy preview. It is certainly worth a chunk of weekend time. I have to thank Mark and his Wife, who was very understanding, for their hospitality. [image]http://www.battlefront.com/community/images/buttons/quote.gif[/image]" Medieval Real Time, Mount and Blade style Historical Combat.
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#16 22 FEB 2011 at 7:29pm
Barkhorn1x Centurion Posts : 513 Joined: 1 OCT 2003 Status : Offline	Yes, will buy immediately - it will be an instant classic. [b][image]http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k286/Barkhorn1x_2006/sign3e.jpg[/image] [/b]
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#17 22 FEB 2011 at 8:32pm
Knavery Centurion Posts : 930 Joined: 10 JAN 2005 Location: US Status : Offline	*Originally Posted By collegeprof86* i will never buy anything from battlefront again. After purchasing some very cool games in the past, like Strat command, and the various expansions, i purchased pt boats and theatre or war kursk, when they 1st came out. Within a few months, i transitioned to a new computer, and when i reinstalled the software i had archived, i had lost the license keys. After 4 months of emailing i finally gave up in disgust over the lack of positive outcome from their technical support. After getting burned for over 100 bucks on 2 games i cannot play all because of their DRM, I will never purchase from them again. btw, Matrix at least keeps your registration keys forever, and i can still today recover mine through them years after purchasing the games, something i was unable to do with battefront just few (less than 6 months) after digitally downloading and paying by card for the 2 games. Sorry battlefront, while the games look cool, i will never give you the business any longer - you lost me I'm sorry to hear that. I understand your position, which is why I'll never download anything that contains DRM. I will always choose a physical shipment in that case. I play Steam games, but I'm not too concerned with them as the login service is always available despite which computer I'm using. This is why I like purchasing Matrix games so much... Nothing to worry about from a DRM perspective. A composer is a guy who goes around forcing his will on unsuspecting air molecules, often with the assistance of unsuspecting musicians. -- Frank Zappa
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#18 22 FEB 2011 at 8:35pm
ArizonaTank Centurion Posts : 582 Joined: 25 APR 2005 Status : Offline	Must buy for me. "No, No, mix them all up. I'm tired of state's rights." Union General George Thomas' reply to his chaplain, when asked if the dead from the Chatanooga campaign should be buried by state as had been done at Gettysburg.
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#19 22 FEB 2011 at 8:42pm
phredd1 Commander Posts : 1065 Joined: 10 SEP 2006 Status : Offline	No, I'm letting this go by.................................................... One mistake, and you're sliding down the razor blade of defeat, and a dull, rusted, and poisoned blade at that.
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#20 22 FEB 2011 at 11:22pm
Ricochet67 Centurion Posts : 52 Joined: 9 MAR 2010 Status : Offline	Just try to stop me. [ ]
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#21 23 FEB 2011 at 2:58am
MikeGER Commander Posts : 1664 Joined: 3 MAR 2005 Location: DE Status : Offline	YES, cant wait [sm=checked.gif] the worst thing that could happen: it plays like a 'WWII module' for CMSF Version 1.31... and that would already be great! and there surly will be improvements, not to speak about all the new toys and tactics to adjust to in the Normandy setting. Of course there is room for improvements, wishes and things too add... i heard there is no catching fire/spreading fire/flame units in the game ...yet [ ], and no 'beach assault'? (prove me wrong please) maybe with 'landing boats just ramp down'- buildings as fixed part of a real beach? landscape'...? I will buy on release-day, but no pre-order ... there is NO benefit for download-only customers that i am aware of [> (to get in the WW II mood i fiddle around with QB scenarios in CMA, Setting: blue vs blue, Tribal Militia light infantry, poor equipment...)
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#22 23 FEB 2011 at 3:01am
Stryker07 Centurion Posts : 369 Joined: 19 JUN 2004 Location: US, Maine Status : Offline	In a word.....YES!!!! I've been playing the NATO module for months pretending the MG3 really says MG42, I am ready!!!
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#23 23 FEB 2011 at 6:42am
JudgeDredd Commander Posts : 1873 Joined: 5 MAR 2006 Location: UK Status : Offline	I love the Combat Mission engine now - BUT I just don't know I could do another WWII game. So - I might. It really does depend on what I hear. JudgeDredd I AM The Law C2C Cycle Blog Just Giving Charity page for St Helena's Hospice
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#24 23 FEB 2011 at 6:56am
MengJiao Centurion Posts : 536 Joined: 2 AUG 2010 Status : Offline	*Originally Posted By Cyrano* I love the CM series like few others. Easy yes. Jim Yep. It's a great series and this one will be the best so far. I think. This war is about Slavery -- Spartacus
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#25 23 FEB 2011 at 9:15am
Nefaro Colonel Posts : 4641 Joined: 6 OCT 2003 Status : Offline	Battlefront's eLicense, specifically them wanting me to pay to change my physical Paradox version of CMSF into their eLicense version in order to get further updates, has really p!ssed me off. I'll walk away from this one for awhile. __________________________ Are you brave enough for 640kb?
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