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| 17 MAY 2003 at 12:44am |
Les the Sarge 9-1eCenturion
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Joined: 7 DEC 2002
Status : Online | Back in 93 when Magic the Gathering was the hottest thing in my life, I can assure you I would rather have been playing this.
Sadly, though, I can't see it as having as much success as Magic did. This is almost certainly due to it being a no sweat matter to find every day schmucks to play a game like Magic, but possibly another matter altogether to find two persons in the same area wanting to play a military setting.
It's a given I would love to buy this game. But also brutally certain they would remain neat looking unplayed on a shelf thanks to next to no interest from most of my local friends.
The biggest problem is the "collectible" nature of the product. I can't see myself convincing anyone to buy cards along with me.
On the other hand, my buying a finite set of cards as a finite game in the same way Up Front uses cards but isn't a collectible would have seemed a better idea if my opinion is worth anything.
Looking at the web page, I seem to get the idea, this game is a cross between collectible trading and finite packaged product. That is, the cards don't look to be sold as random foil packs. Is that correct?
That might make a modest difference, albiet slight. But still, I would rather the game was marketed on organised packages where all was included to play.
I am on record saying the wargame community needs fresh radical thinking where wargames are concerned. I applaud this effort. But I am hoping my comments lead to something.
I have lived the world's dogma, that's why I know it's worthless.
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| 17 MAY 2003 at 8:38pm |
John CaskeyCenturion
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Joined: 16 MAY 2003
Status : Online | The game is marketed as individual decks to allow gamers to choose which units they are interested in playing. A ready-to-play set of three decks is also availble. It contains 9th Panzer Division, 18th Tank Corps, and the Drive on Stalingrad operation.
There is no rarity to the cards ala Magic. Buying all the decks will get you every card that is printed.
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| 17 MAY 2003 at 10:37pm |
Les the Sarge 9-1eCenturion
Posts : 672
Joined: 7 DEC 2002
Status : Online | That sounds encouraging then. Heaven knows, wargaming needs more than yet another wargame done the same old way.
And that goes equally for board games as it does computer games.
Has anyone asked if the game will ever see the light of day in an electronic fashion?
I have lived the world's dogma, that's why I know it's worthless.
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| 18 MAY 2003 at 12:31am |
John CaskeyCenturion
Posts : 8
Joined: 16 MAY 2003
Status : Online | We have plans to make games we publish playable online. Much depends on the success of the first few "paper" only games. Unless we have the capital to put back in the business for online games, we won't be able to do them no matter how much we all see them as the future of the hobby.
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| 18 MAY 2003 at 2:11pm |
riverbravoCenturion
Posts : 220
Joined: 12 FEB 2003
Status : Online | Well this sounds pretty cool.
I never played magic,I got my fill playing RP games.So the dragons and castle type of games have been long gone for me.
I will check this out as it seems a good way to play some quick games with some friends.are you guys doing anything for a single player style of play?
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| 21 MAY 2003 at 3:34am |
Wolftrap4Centurion
Posts : 202
Joined: 4 MAY 2003
Status : Online | That's true playing this card game will be great when you don't have time to play a board game and are away from the computer.
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| 21 MAY 2003 at 2:20pm |
Les the Sarge 9-1eCenturion
Posts : 672
Joined: 7 DEC 2002
Status : Online | A good game is measured in numerous ways.
Card using games enjoy the benefit of portable, space friendly (play em where you like), and are generally unique enough from the common approach.
As simulations they of course are up against totally different conditions where "accuracy" issues are concerned. There is no map hence ranges, movement speeds, supply lines, zones of control all the usual battery of wargaming related hassles just don't exist.
About the only buga boo the game will have to deal with is, unfavourable comments like, "oh it is just copying (insert other card using game name here)".
This happened to quite a few games that came out following Magic the Gathering's sudden obvious popularity.
Right now, I suppose the only glitch will be how easily did the company get it into the hands of wargamers.
As we speak, I either find my electronic wargames online, or extremely rarely on a shelf (and I do mean extremely rarely). My board games are increasingly bought through online. The days of shelf bought wargames seems to be gone realistically in my my opinion (can't say as I expect to buy wargames off the shelf much if ever again).
So I hope Lost Battalion is well geared up to make online orders smooth and efficient. I also hope it is sufficient to make them profitable.
I suppose I would like to acquire them myself (all depends on where my cash goes and when to some extent). I would likely be stuck with the burden of buying the entirety of all I expect to ever encounter. That means a purchase from me would have to be either a large initial purchase, or none at all (because being stuck with a few isolated decks would be the same as being stuck with only part of a wargame.
I am only likely to be in the market for "complete sets" type purchases such as the one example mentioned. I can only hope, that "complete set" purchases are given some manner of price concession over buying single decks.
I have lived the world's dogma, that's why I know it's worthless.
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| 1 JUN 2003 at 11:13pm |
Wodin
Banned for 1595 days
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Location: UK, Liverpool
Status : Offline | I have had a keen interest in wargames from a young age but as was said before I have never had anyone to play them with. However This game looks excellent as I like the idea of card games they look less daunting than board games for someone ie my wife to have a go!
I wish you all the best for the future.
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| 2 JUN 2003 at 2:48pm |
John CaskeyCenturion
Posts : 8
Joined: 16 MAY 2003
Status : Online | Battlelines might be a little "hard core" for the wife. It is a serious wargame, albeit, a little less complicated than some.
However, we'll be announcing a new game within a few days tentatively titled:
Carnage on the Waves:
The Great War
It's a game in the tradition of "Naval War," but much cooler, with nice graphics, ship pictures, improved game play, and much more.
It's certainly something that has a wargame flavor but will be easily digestible by wargame widows and non-wargamer friends.
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| 2 JUN 2003 at 4:27pm |
Wodin
Banned for 1595 days
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Joined: 18 JAN 2006
Location: UK, Liverpool
Status : Offline | You dont know my wife
Only messing thanks for the advice anyway.
I prefer land combat myself so hopefully you might do something on the same lines as the one you mentioned.
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