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Someone should take EA to court. I'm sure they'd love to get a hold of this one. They have absolutely no right to use personal information and information not pertaining to their own products for other purposes. We are in dire need of someone bringing this type of thing up to the Supreme Court.
A composer is a guy who goes around forcing his will on unsuspecting air molecules, often with the assistance of unsuspecting musicians. -- Frank Zappa
From the article:
“collect, use, store and transmit technical and related information that identifies your computer, operating system, Application usage (including but not limited to successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware.”
They had to specify application, software, software usage and peripheral hardware. At first I was thinking "hmmm maybe they just want to see how many hours a day a player spends on Mass Effect 3." Intrusive, but barely tolerable.
But since the text specifies application, software, and software usage, this implies that they might monitor other software that were not created by EA. Software being as vague it is, they might monitor anything. If they meant to monitor only EA products, the term "this application" would have sufficed, but EA had to use vague terms representing the whole gamut of software to cover their bases. I think this crosses the line.
The argument looks pretty heated on the RPS site, some said that the EULA is no different than the steam EULA. Just that some how origin is the punching bag of the month because people are already keyed up about no in game BF3 browser and players requiring origin for multiplay.
I was about to pre purchase BF3 today, but that article made me wait and see a little bit longer.
Your gaming days mainstream are almost over guys. Pretty soon it will be "All your lives are belong to us" as publishers mottos. Most of you aren't even complaining about the fact it's going to "require internet access" let alone "be online to play". In some cases we're talking about a $30 a month subscription fee just to get on the internet and that's being the low end of it), along with some online subscription fees to play some games (MMO's etc.) and then buying the game outright in the first place another $40-$50 (unless you're like me and wait for everything for $5.00)
Gaming entertainent is getting rather ridiculous now. Used to be you bought a game for $20-$30 and you owned it for life (as long as you kept it backed up). You didn't have to be online to play it ever. In fact you used to get free tcp/ip ability to play your games online without cost. You used to get a nice large box, with a "printed color manual", game disks and in some cases laminated maps. Lol today publishers are so cheap they don't want to provide much of nothing except some direct non-customer interaction download. It's really a shame in todays time we are getting so little for so much more money and effort on our parts. That's why I'm glad to wait on the $5.00 game bargain price. If they don't want to work with me and be fair then I'm not going to care about them. I can wait for GOG.com gaming now.
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Dbeves: And LMFAO - didnt you just have to work battlefront into your response somewhere - you are priceless.
The updated EULA still contains the questionably vague part:
The non-personally identifiable information that EA collects includes technical and related information that identifies your computer (including the Internet Protocol Address) and operating system, as well as information about your Application usage (including but not limited to successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware.
So by agreeing to their vague wording, you still give EA the right to monitor software that was not made by EA. Even if they say that they are not selling your personal info, they are still demanding that you give them the right to monitor your non-EA software. And this part
In addition to information that you give EA directly, EA collects nonpersonally identifiable (or anonymous) information for purposes of improving our products and services, providing services to you, facilitating the provision of software updates, dynamically served content and product support as well as communicating with you.
Could EA get away with the following interpretation in a court of law? dynamically served content: tailor-made ads whenever your computer connects to Origin. After monitoring your non-EA software usage (still possible according to the wording), they send tailor-made ads. So if they find Baldur's Gate 2 installed on your hard drive they might advertise Dragon Age 2, even though you really don't like Dragon Age 2.
I've warned of it before: Having regular commercials shoved down your throat, turning your games into commercial-soaked cable. Wouldn't surprise me a bit if EA starts doing it. Hell, Steam does their own to a smaller extent.
Electronic Arts has modified the Origin terms of service to forbid its users from filing class action lawsuits against the company.
A couple of weeks ago, Sony updated the PlayStation Network terms of service with a clause that forces users to waive their right to file class action lawsuits against the company. Instead, disputes must be resolved individually through arbitration, a process when tends to favor corporations over individuals. It sounds a bit dodgy but the change came about thanks to recent decision by the Supreme Court of the United States, which ruled in a separate case that such conditions are enforceable.
Recognizing a good idea when it sees one, Electronic Arts has now made similar changes to the Origin terms of service. Under "Section 20: Dispute Resolution by Binding Arbitration," the ToS now compels users to "expressly waive the right to a trial by jury or to participate in a class action." Instead, all disputes that cannot be straightened out through "informal negotiations" will be "finally and exclusively resolved by binding arbitration."
In case that's not clear enough in itself, the document also states, in bold face and all caps, "You understand that by this provision, you and EA are foregoing the right to sue in court and have a trial by jury."
There are some limitations; you're exempt from these restrictions if you happen to live in Quebec, Russia, Switzerland or the Member States of the European Union, which apparently take a dim view on allowing people to forfeit their legal rights with a blind click-through. Ha.