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| 14 NOV 2011 at 3:12pm |
SteelgraveColonel


Posts : 3319 Joined: 1 DEC 2006 Location: US
Status : Offline | ^He's been hanging with you for too long, Azz. Clearly it has perverted him beyond all hope! Good job, brother! 
"When in danger, or in doubt.....run in circles, scream and shout!!!", author Herman Wouk.
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| 14 NOV 2011 at 3:17pm |
Azzurri

Banned for 15395 days
Posts : 9755 Joined: 24 NOV 2009 Location: 0, Kentucky
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Steelgrave
^He's been hanging with you for too long, Azz. Clearly it has perverted him beyond all hope! Good job, brother! 
Conversion is never an easy task.
However, once attained, the fruit of the labor is...well....a fruit.
It is better to die by a swords quick thrust than to be impaled for a lifetime upon the sharp tongue of a woman.-Grimjack Last edited by Azzurri : 14 NOV 2011 3:21pm
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| 14 NOV 2011 at 5:10pm |
ZerohourCenturion


Posts : 19 Joined: 28 AUG 2011 Location: US
Status : Offline | The interface in the PC version is a nightmare, go for the 360 version.
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| 15 NOV 2011 at 6:36am |
Sol InvictusCenturion

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Posts : 967 Joined: 6 APR 2005 Location: US
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Zerohour
The interface in the PC version is a nightmare, go for the 360 version.
It's not very intuitive but I got comfortable with it after about an hour of play. Overall I think it is much improved over Oblivion's UI. Now that was a nightmare.
"The fruit of too much liberty is slavery" Cicero
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| 15 NOV 2011 at 7:47am |
KnaveryCenturion


Posts : 930 Joined: 10 JAN 2005 Location: US
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Zerohour
The interface in the PC version is a nightmare, go for the 360 version.
Bad advice. It doesn't take long to learn the controls of the PC version. It's just very sensitive in that you it's very hard to select certain things. But it's still better than any console version.
A composer is a guy who goes around forcing his will on unsuspecting air molecules, often with the assistance of unsuspecting musicians. -- Frank Zappa
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| 15 NOV 2011 at 12:00pm |
UlfangCenturion


Posts : 855 Joined: 27 SEP 2005 Location: UK, Lancashire
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Zerohour
The interface in the PC version is a nightmare, go for the 360 version.
It's hardly a nightmare. Yes you can feel it is designed for a console in places but if you've played a PC version of Elder Scrolls before it's not THAT different. I have both versions and intended the PC version to by my main version and that is still the case.
Xfire - Ulfang Steam - Gavmundo Xbox Gamertag & PSN Profile - Gavmundo
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| 15 NOV 2011 at 12:21pm |
UlfangCenturion


Posts : 855 Joined: 27 SEP 2005 Location: UK, Lancashire
Status : Offline | Some very cool screenshots http://deadendthrills.com/?cat=314
The Author of the wesbite also posted an interesting forum post about mods and tweaks http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=451616
Xfire - Ulfang Steam - Gavmundo Xbox Gamertag & PSN Profile - Gavmundo
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| 15 NOV 2011 at 12:46pm |
Silent Disapproval RobotCommander


Posts : 1358 Joined: 14 MAR 2009
Status : Offline | I'll echo what Zerohour said. The UI is terrible. If you're a lefty (or even somebody who prefers something besides the default WASD setup, you're in for a real headache.
Remapping the key bindings is a bitch. The numpad is inaccessible and trying to map other keys can have you chasing your tail as the game tries to reassign keys ahead of you each time you make a change.
I've spent 5-6 hours fighting with hex editors just trying to remap the keys to the numPad (without success) and haven't even made it passed the opeking scene where you first get to move.
Terrible terrible interface.
豆腐の角に頭をぶつけて死ね

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| 15 NOV 2011 at 12:57pm |
UlfangCenturion


Posts : 855 Joined: 27 SEP 2005 Location: UK, Lancashire
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Silent Disapproval Robot I'll echo what Zerohour said. The UI is terrible. If you're a lefty (or even somebody who prefers something besides the default WASD setup, you're in for a real headache. Remapping the key bindings is a bitch. The numpad is inaccessible and trying to map other keys can have you chasing your tail as the game tries to reassign keys ahead of you each time you make a change. I've spent 5-6 hours fighting with hex editors just trying to remap the keys to the numPad (without success) and haven't even made it passed the opeking scene where you first get to move. Terrible terrible interface.
Well it's all down to personal preference I suppose. I've played all Elder Scrolls games and the UI is similar in all it's games and many games are the same sort of UI and/or key binding. Not a problem for many but a problem for some. I'm quite happy with the setup but for someone used to setting up a different way I can see how it might be a problem. This doesn't make it a terrible UI of course just not a UI that suits everyone.
Xfire - Ulfang Steam - Gavmundo Xbox Gamertag & PSN Profile - Gavmundo
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| 15 NOV 2011 at 1:43pm |
UlfangCenturion


Posts : 855 Joined: 27 SEP 2005 Location: UK, Lancashire
Status : Offline | 
My Lydia ... she's a Nord, she's hot, she's perfect, she's wonderful, she's quite, quite dead of course... #whyarecompanionssostupid

You know what I'm thinking .... or do I think you know what I'm thinking? Or do I think I know you think you know what .. er... I.. um...

Ohhh now you have those "let's go kill a Troll" eyes....

I... er... ahem... sorry about that. Riverwood Town Council have served me an eviction notice....

DON'T mention Hrothgar .... if I see ANOTHER step I'll....

My new helmet... my friend is sulking ... he doesn't have one...

Sorry.... it's the cleaners day off

The view from Hrothgar is just... erm... well... erm...
Xfire - Ulfang Steam - Gavmundo Xbox Gamertag & PSN Profile - Gavmundo Last edited by Ulfang : 15 NOV 2011 1:45pm
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| 15 NOV 2011 at 2:02pm |
KnaveryCenturion


Posts : 930 Joined: 10 JAN 2005 Location: US
Status : Offline | Hey guys,
What's the setting that controls how the screen goes light to dark when you move the mouse around? Is it some fade setting from the game? I'm not sure what those are really for.
A composer is a guy who goes around forcing his will on unsuspecting air molecules, often with the assistance of unsuspecting musicians. -- Frank Zappa
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| 15 NOV 2011 at 2:07pm |
SteelgraveColonel


Posts : 3319 Joined: 1 DEC 2006 Location: US
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Ulfang

My Lydia ... she's a Nord, she's hot, she's perfect, she's wonderful, she's quite, quite dead of course... #whyarecompanionssostupid

You know what I'm thinking .... or do I think you know what I'm thinking? Or do I think I know you think you know what .. er... I.. um...

Ohhh now you have those "let's go kill a Troll" eyes....

I... er... ahem... sorry about that. Riverwood Town Council have served me an eviction notice....

DON'T mention Hrothgar .... if I see ANOTHER step I'll....

My new helmet... my friend is sulking ... he doesn't have one...

Sorry.... it's the cleaners day off

The view from Hrothgar is just... erm... well... erm...
"Let's go kill a troll" eyes.....LMAO!!! Your captions are hilarious, Fang, but I think that was my favorite.
"When in danger, or in doubt.....run in circles, scream and shout!!!", author Herman Wouk.
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| 15 NOV 2011 at 2:54pm |
John DiFoolCenturion


Posts : 325 Joined: 25 JUN 2005 Location: US
Status : Offline | You know...you don't need to quote the entire message, including every single pic, to make your point. You know.
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| 15 NOV 2011 at 4:19pm |
Silent Disapproval RobotCommander


Posts : 1358 Joined: 14 MAR 2009
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Ulfang
Originally Posted By Silent Disapproval Robot I'll echo what Zerohour said. The UI is terrible. If you're a lefty (or even somebody who prefers something besides the default WASD setup, you're in for a real headache. Remapping the key bindings is a bitch. The numpad is inaccessible and trying to map other keys can have you chasing your tail as the game tries to reassign keys ahead of you each time you make a change. I've spent 5-6 hours fighting with hex editors just trying to remap the keys to the numPad (without success) and haven't even made it passed the opeking scene where you first get to move. Terrible terrible interface.
Well it's all down to personal preference I suppose. I've played all Elder Scrolls games and the UI is similar in all it's games and many games are the same sort of UI and/or key binding. Not a problem for many but a problem for some. I'm quite happy with the setup but for someone used to setting up a different way I can see how it might be a problem. This doesn't make it a terrible UI of course just not a UI that suits everyone.
No, no it's not. Pretty much every single other PC game out there allows the user to remap controls to his liking. Not including this option is a big oversight on the dev's part. All I can say is, if you're a lefty, either get a console controller or skip this title. It's just to cumbersome to play it as is.
豆腐の角に頭をぶつけて死ね

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| 15 NOV 2011 at 5:11pm |
ghostryderColonel


Posts : 6936 Joined: 4 MAY 2004 Location: US, Texas
Status : Offline | I'm left handed, and on top of that deslexic--mirror vision. I've gotten comfortable with the controls-as mentioned they are almost the same as Oblivion- except your "Q" Key is favorites and your "Z" key is now shouts instead of grab- which is now on the "E" key-which also functions as the action key which is kind of weird.
The left and right hand are reversed--but there is a mod here that addresses that:
http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=82
This mod remaps to the arrow keys:
http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=257
Still not where it should be and I totally agree concidering Bethseda is enjoying million plus PC sales more should be done for PC users---The Witcher was a PC only title and when they decided to go console they totally redid the intire game-I do not think this is too much to ask. They really half-a--ed this port --but when the construction kit is released I expect total UI conversions to emerge.
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| 15 NOV 2011 at 5:23pm |
SteelgraveColonel


Posts : 3319 Joined: 1 DEC 2006 Location: US
Status : Offline | Mine is arriving tomorrow. I was going to hold off, but the posts and pics in this thread wore me down. I do have faith that Bethseda will address the PC problems or I probably wouldn't have bought it anyway. Some companies I have more trust in than others, but on the other hand, you only have to let me down once to make my "list"......
"When in danger, or in doubt.....run in circles, scream and shout!!!", author Herman Wouk.
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| 15 NOV 2011 at 5:24pm |
Sir SlashCenturion


Posts : 249 Joined: 27 JUN 2011 Location: US, Florida
Status : Offline | PC Gamer has a link to their top 10 best Skyrim mods(apparently there's already over a hundred) including one that allows the hotkeys to be reconfigured. Also one that eliminates all spiders from the game in favor of bears. Also Skyrim sales are $3.4 million dollars in the first 2 days, not including digital sales. That's 600% above Oblivion sales at it's premier.
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| 15 NOV 2011 at 5:35pm |
SteelgraveColonel


Posts : 3319 Joined: 1 DEC 2006 Location: US
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Sir Slash
PC Gamer has a link to their top 10 best Skyrim mods(apparently there's already over a hundred) including one that allows the hotkeys to be reconfigured. Also one that eliminates all spiders from the game in favor of bears. Also Skyrim sales are $3.4 million dollars in the first 2 days, not including digital sales. That's 600% above Oblivion sales at it's premier.
Thanks for the info, Sir Slash. Over a hundred mods already....wow! That's one of my favorite things about this series
"When in danger, or in doubt.....run in circles, scream and shout!!!", author Herman Wouk.
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| 15 NOV 2011 at 5:56pm |
panzerooCenturion


Posts : 216 Joined: 9 JAN 2004 Location: AU, NSW
Status : Offline | Skyrim nexus is where i go for the mods.
The gameworld is definately impressive. Much darker and grittier then Oblivion. Though i am about to play on a harder difficulty than the default adept as its much too easy on that setting.
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| 15 NOV 2011 at 6:12pm |
GroggyGrognardCenturion


Posts : 528 Joined: 3 FEB 2011
Status : Offline | Just got my copy today. I'll just say goodbye to my life now.
"That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons that history has to teach." -Aldous Huxley
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| 15 NOV 2011 at 6:13pm |
SteelgraveColonel


Posts : 3319 Joined: 1 DEC 2006 Location: US
Status : Offline | ^Hey, you making fun of our rabbit avatars? Bad man!
"When in danger, or in doubt.....run in circles, scream and shout!!!", author Herman Wouk.
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| 15 NOV 2011 at 6:14pm |
ghostryderColonel


Posts : 6936 Joined: 4 MAY 2004 Location: US, Texas
Status : Offline | 
If size matters....

Tells about the black soul gems. The majority of the Lore is found in books- and this time the game is not contrary to what you read -which is a plus.

While wondering the mountains it's a good idea to extend character view distances beyond the default so there are no surprises popping into view too close.

Enemies when near death often will beg....but if you don't kill them they'll get back up and attack. Still...it's nice to see them squirm.

Towns and cities are very well done---as is the moons.
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| 15 NOV 2011 at 7:09pm |
GusingtonGeneral


Posts : 18089 Joined: 16 AUG 2004 Location: US, USMA
Status : Offline | I almost pulled the trigger today and then reflected on how little time I really have to play it...maybe an hour a day if I'm lucky. How much can you do in an hour here? Is an hour satisfying?
I'm glad my character uses a shield because I may be taking a bashing here soon.
- Rayfer

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| 15 NOV 2011 at 8:33pm |
Azzurri

Banned for 15395 days
Posts : 9755 Joined: 24 NOV 2009 Location: 0, Kentucky
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By GroggyGrognard
Just got my copy today. I'll just say goodbye to my life now.
Hey Punky, what took you so long...still pulling that same IP address I see.
Electronic fingerprints baby, electronic fingerprints!
Mmmmmmuuuuuhhhhhhaaaaaaaa!!!!
It is better to die by a swords quick thrust than to be impaled for a lifetime upon the sharp tongue of a woman.-Grimjack
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