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29 FEB 2012 at 1:16am

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Originally Posted By tgb123 (24 FEB 2012 9:55am)

Originally Posted By JaguarUSF (24 FEB 2012 9:10am)

Originally Posted By Slick Wilhelm (24 FEB 2012 8:06am)

She's out. Time to buy & play!

 

??

The press release said late March.

 

 

Yes, it does.  And there is nothing on the Matrix site to indicate otherwise.  I knew WCS has put Brother Against Brother on hold to work on a WWII project.  If this is it, I just got a lot more interested.

 

 

 

 

Hi, tgb123!  It's been a while.

 

Yes, this is the game that has caused absurdly long delays in the completion of BAB, as we have just one programmer and one lead graphics guy (though for COH we contracted out some of the graphics work).  Anyone who has played the original will understand that decision -- and so, too, will anyone who plays the computer version when that comes out.



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29 FEB 2012 at 1:19am

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I'm becoming more interested. I particulary like the 3D map.



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29 FEB 2012 at 1:23am

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Originally Posted By DCosta (25 FEB 2012 1:46pm)

Not what I read. I read AI and multiplayer. I can't see anywhere that the AI has just been tacked on. If it has then that soirt of defeats the object of bringing it to the PC. That being the case I very much doubt that the AI has been tacked on. I believe it would have been the mani focus point in development.

 

 

The way you think it's been done you may aswell buy the baordgame and use VASSAL.

 

As a developer with WCS, I can assure you that the AI is not "tacked on."  it has always been a programming and testing priority.



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29 FEB 2012 at 1:28am

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Thought as much. Amazing what some people read into a game description.



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29 FEB 2012 at 1:43am

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Originally Posted By DCosta (29 FEB 2012 1:28am)

Thought as much. Amazing what some people read into a game description.

 

Wargamers screaming "DOOM!"?    That doesn't happen often does it?

 

 

 


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29 FEB 2012 at 6:04am

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Hi, Gil:

 

Any plans for a campaign?



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1 MAR 2012 at 3:06pm

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A campaign system is something definitely under consideration.  It's not in the first release because 1) we wanted that to be essentially the original boardgame (plus extra scenarios), and 2) it would involve an awful lot of work and testing, and thus would have delayed release considerably.  So while I've learned over the years not to make promises about potential features, I can promise that we will seriously think about making this a feature.

 



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3 MAR 2012 at 6:33am

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I just received an email asking for pre-orders, and if you do so be entered in a drawing to get a free copy of their (Academy Games) boardgame 1812 The Invasion of Canada.  The email says, (here's an exerpt

 

Coming in early April! The computer version of Conflict of Heroes - Awakening the Bear.

 

I just went back to the Matrix site, and it still says:

 

Conflict of Heroes: Awakening the Bear!will be released in late March and will be available for $39.99 Download / $49.99 Physical through the Matrix Games and Slitherine online stores.

 

So what's the real story?


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3 MAR 2012 at 7:02am

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Originally Posted By Blakjack (3 MAR 2012 6:33am)

I just received an email asking for pre-orders, and if you do so be entered in a drawing to get a free copy of their (Academy Games) boardgame 1812 The Invasion of Canada.  The email says, (here's an exerpt

 

Coming in early April! The computer version of Conflict of Heroes - Awakening the Bear.

 

I just went back to the Matrix site, and it still says:

 

Conflict of Heroes: Awakening the Bear!will be released in late March and will be available for $39.99 Download / $49.99 Physical through the Matrix Games and Slitherine online stores.

 

So what's the real story?

 

Who knows?  They are apparently charging $10 more than Matrix, too.

 

 



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3 MAR 2012 at 7:15am

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Originally Posted By Blakjack (3 MAR 2012 6:33am)

So what's the real story?

 

I'm sure the real story is that they don't know for sure when the game will be finished.

 



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3 MAR 2012 at 8:00am

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Can anyone comment yet on how this game compares to Battlefield Academy?



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7 MAR 2012 at 5:26am

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I'm trying to figure out the graphics here as I at first thought there was a smudge on my pc screen, but does the terrain actually obscure the counter details as depicted in the screenshot?

 

 

 



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7 MAR 2012 at 7:12am

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I certainly hope not JPFalcon!  That would be a strange design decision if it does.



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7 MAR 2012 at 10:16am

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Originally Posted By JPFalcon (7 MAR 2012 5:26am)

I'm trying to figure out the graphics here as I at first thought there was a smudge on my pc screen, but does the terrain actually obscure the counter details as depicted in the screenshot?

 

 

 

 

Yes it will cover the counters at some angles, as the terrain is 3D evenwhen using the chits.... which if you look closely are 3D as well just shorter that then trees.

 

When viewed from directly above there is no blockage.

 

 


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7 MAR 2012 at 1:46pm

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I have no idea how the boardgame plays out, but does it follow along the lines of Matrix's Operation Barbarossa, or is it much more tactical?

 

http://www.matrixgames.com/products/374/details/Operation.Barbarossa.-.The.Struggle.for.Russia



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7 MAR 2012 at 1:51pm

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Originally Posted By spelk (7 MAR 2012 1:46pm)

I have no idea how the boardgame plays out, but does it follow along the lines of Matrix's Operation Barbarossa, or is it much more tactical?

 

http://www.matrixgames.com/products/374/details/Operation.Barbarossa.-.The.Struggle.for.Russia

 


I have not played the board game either but I believe it is much more than Barbarossa. If interested, you can check out some of the videos at BGG concerning the boardgame version which illustrates gameplay quite well.

 

 

 

http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/24800/conflict-of-heroes-awakening-the-bear-russia-1941

 



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7 MAR 2012 at 2:04pm

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Originally Posted By Barthheart (7 MAR 2012 10:16am)

Originally Posted By JPFalcon (7 MAR 2012 5:26am)

I'm trying to figure out the graphics here as I at first thought there was a smudge on my pc screen, but does the terrain actually obscure the counter details as depicted in the screenshot?

 

 

 

 

Yes it will cover the counters at some angles, as the terrain is 3D evenwhen using the chits.... which if you look closely are 3D as well just shorter that then trees.

 

When viewed from directly above there is no blockage.

 

 

 

Well since I plan to play with the traditional 2D board and counters, then it is ok by me......

 

 



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8 MAR 2012 at 4:55am

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Originally Posted By spelk (7 MAR 2012 1:46pm)

I have no idea how the boardgame plays out, but does it follow along the lines of Matrix's Operation Barbarossa, or is it much more tactical?

 

http://www.matrixgames.com/products/374/details/Operation.Barbarossa.-.The.Struggle.for.Russia

 


It's much more tactical. Units are individual vehicles or squads of men or weapon teams (MG's, ATG's etc).


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15 APR 2012 at 5:20am

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While Matrix's site was mum on a specific release date, for a while now Slitherine's has shown COH available on April 15th.

 

Curiously, the game has completely disappeared from the Store listings on BOTH sites.  WTH?


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15 APR 2012 at 5:27am

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Originally Posted By Blakjack (15 APR 2012 5:20am)

Curiously, the game has completely disappeared from the Store listings on BOTH sites.  WTH?

 

I have it on good authority that the game will be released....April 18th.

 

 



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15 APR 2012 at 6:10am

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Originally Posted By JaguarUSF (15 APR 2012 5:27am)

Originally Posted By Blakjack (15 APR 2012 5:20am)

Curiously, the game has completely disappeared from the Store listings on BOTH sites.  WTH?

 

I have it on good authority that the game will be released....April 18th.

 

 

 

Well thats good news... 15th was never going to work as its a sunday ...



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15 APR 2012 at 7:38am

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On April 9th, Erik Rutins wrote that the game will be a few more weeks, no more than a month. The 18th would be great!



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17 APR 2012 at 8:14am

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Originally Posted By JaguarUSF (15 APR 2012 5:27am)

Originally Posted By Blakjack (15 APR 2012 5:20am)

Curiously, the game has completely disappeared from the Store listings on BOTH sites.  WTH?

 

I have it on good authority that the game will be released....April 18th.

 

 

 

Jag, I assume you have a review copy.  How friendly is it to someone who has never played the board game?

 

 



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17 APR 2012 at 8:22am

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Originally Posted By tgb123 (17 APR 2012 8:14am)

Jag, I assume you have a review copy.  How friendly is it to someone who has never played the board game?

 

Not yet. Waiting for release just like everyone else.

 

 



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17 APR 2012 at 8:22am

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You do not need to know anything about the boardgame.

 

It plays out like a standard turn based game - though it's turn based in the sense that you take and action, the AI takes an action and so on and so forth - an action being moving a hex or firing.

 

It's easier than the boardgame for obvious reasons (computer doing all the maintaining) - but moreso because the activation/reaction system has been removed.

 

In the boardgame, you activated a unit and you moved/fired with that unit until it was out of APs (action points) and you could do nothing else with any of your other units unless they reacted to a reaction by the opponent. In the computer version, as stated above, you take an action and then the AI takes an action - and your action can be ANY unit on the field

 

It's not a difficult game in terms of playing...you will pick it up easy and there is NO prior knowledge of the boardgame required at all.



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