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6 MAY 2012 at 12:20pm

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Now then, before you all shudder and start to worry about my defection to the world of anime dating sims, you should really take a look into Loren RPG. 

 

http://www.winterwolves.com/lorenamazonprincess.htm

 

It's got some nice anime/traditional western comic artwork, it's got a fairly decent story with interesting characters in a party centered turn based fantasy RPG. Loot and skill trees and a sort of Final Fantasy style combat mechanic. 

 

I saw the demo pop up, and grabbed it - and was pleasantly surprised by the amount of tactical depth to the game's combat system and co-operative skill trees. It's all wrapped around a tale of personalities and a world where Amazonian women, elves, cheeky dwarves and men have culture clashes and romantic crushes. Sort of a more light hearted Dragon Age.

 

WinterWolves have a bunch of games that are dating sims, or flower shop games, but this time they've gone for the "proper" RPG - if a little light on the gritty realism.

 

Definitely worth a look, if you like RPG's with a bit of story. Especially one that branches in several places and follows slightly different tracks. The amount of personalities (race/classes) is satisfying enough as they assemble throughout your journey and you have a party of six to tailor on your way. Loot is suitably epic, with named items showing up, and the skill trees allow for a couple of different specialisations per character class. 

 

Loren, the main character in the storyline, is your master, and she's a blademaiden Amazon Princess. The option for saucy outfits is there, to turn on or off to your desires. 

 

 

 



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6 MAY 2012 at 1:04pm

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Do tell us how you get on with it.

 

I saw it, had a ponder, but at the non budget price it has, I hesitate.

 

Would be interested to know if it is good.



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6 MAY 2012 at 1:13pm

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Some Anime I love, other stuff is just plain creepy and very suspicious. This looks cool though. I'm always up for some turn based RPG's.

 

Thanks for the heads up.



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6 MAY 2012 at 2:39pm

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The song induces vomiting....time for a clean up.....



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6 MAY 2012 at 2:50pm

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The song obviously aimed at female RPG gamers, which is cool in my book, not the music just girl gamers geting into turn based fantasy games.



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6 MAY 2012 at 2:59pm

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Originally Posted By DCosta (6 MAY 2012 2:50pm)

The song obviously aimed at female RPG gamers, which is cool in my book, not the music just girl gamers geting into turn based fantasy games.

 

Well if there are numbers to prove that such "sugar induced diabetic coma songs" do in fact attract females to such games, then I'm ok with it too. I'll give the demo a whirl and keep a brown paper bag handy.



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6 MAY 2012 at 3:06pm

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A post at RPS, where the writer showed up:

 

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/forums/showthread.php?4856-Loren-Amazon-Princess-VN-RPG-for-PC-Mac-Linux&p=125835&viewfull=1#post125835

 

Quote Originally Posted by AltheaView Post

Women in skimpy clothes is not the same on any level as men in skimpy clothes.

I agree.

Hello, I'm Aleema, I'm the writer for this game. The beginning of the game, unfortunately, was mostly written by someone else. (It doesn't start getting all me until after you make your choice to leave Grimoire.)

I want to mention that I am a feminist, and that the art is in no way a representation of the game's attitude towards women. At least, from what I had control over. I advocated for the covers for the character art, but they were already drawn before I was recruited. I know this means nothing if you consider the gameplay or plot as awful, but I do hope that this artist is never used again.

First impressions are indeed important, and for $25-30, they're costly. Thank you for stepping up to defend the representation of women in games, even if it's against this one.



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6 MAY 2012 at 5:25pm

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Originally Posted By DCosta (6 MAY 2012 2:50pm)

The song obviously aimed at female RPG gamers, which is cool in my book, not the music just girl gamers geting into turn based fantasy games.

 

All the women gamers I know love RPGs.  They don't need cheesy music in them, either.  Just lots of shiny stuff to get, or purchase, or find.

 

They aren't terribly bothered by scantily clad people in them (aka Battlehoes), but they will get cranky if one doesn't have a female character creation option. 

 

 


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6 MAY 2012 at 11:50pm

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Originally Posted By Nefaro (6 MAY 2012 5:25pm)

 

 

All the women gamers I know love RPGs.  They don't need cheesy music in them, either.  Just lots of shiny stuff to get, or purchase, or find.

 

They aren't terribly bothered by scantily clad people in them (aka Battlehoes), but they will get cranky if one doesn't have a female character creation option. 

 

 


Not just women gamers...I get cranky as well

 



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7 MAY 2012 at 12:06am

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As a man whose been watching plenty of anime in his younger years, I'm not sure the song is particularly out of place. It's a western derivation of an anime styled intro song. The upbeat cheesey tempo is about the norm for anime shows. If this game were an anime TV show, the song would fit right in.

 

As for the overtly sexist imagery of women, it not only fits in with anime styling but also with 1970's traditional western fantasy artists like Luis Royo et al. I rather like the stylised sexual power of the presentation - it suits my fantasy tastes - and I think the artwork is very, very good. It's not your over the top cute anime style, because it leans more towards a traditional western fantasy art style. It's timid Conan, rather than the more "kawaii" of Oh My Goddess. They even give you the option of seeing the gratuitous bare flesh or not. 

 

Anyway, the game plays out like an anime TV series, the story is well executed - so far - the characters are interesting - without being terribly "gritty" and it's a game that doesn't take itself too seriously.

 

I like the way the tactical turn based combat doesn't jarr against the narrative and dialogue sections, it just sort of flows into it as a natural part. Theres some story, some banter, and then the journey is described before we meet the foes. The nice touch of character whimsy and personality responses (jokingly, friendly, or forceful) just adds a layer of choice on top of the main flow. I'm not sure it makes a massive difference to any of the outcomes.

 

It's not overly difficult, I'm playing through on normal, but if you want a challenge, you might have to ramp it up to hardest difficulty. And even then I'm not sure you'll get it. I think it's built to be a storied battler, that lets you play with the characters and just make the journey with them. This isn't Temple of Elemental Evil.

 

 



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9 MAY 2012 at 1:35am

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The expansion to Loren has been announced.

 

The Castle of N'mar.

 

 

The Castle Of N'mar is the name of the expansion, which we'll start working on probably this weekend (as I said I want to take things a bit more easier from now on). I don't know yet WHEN will be out, since have also a few more backgrounds to be drawn for the new zones, but should be really out this summer. Once there's all the content I plan to do a beta-testing stage like I did with the main game.
It will add Sauzer the Unarmed Warrior specialist(no romance), Mesphit the Demon (GxB and BxB) and Chambara the Dark Witch (BxG and GxG). You can recruit them anytime starting from chapter2 of the main game, and each one requires you to do a quest to recruit.
We'll also add some more background story and quests for each of the other characters. Similarly to what happens in Planet Stronghold, doing a quest will reward you with a unique item for each character (well, apart Loren since she has already the Ember/Hawke sword).
There will be several new zones with new quests and new monsters to fight. The Castle of N'mar of course, catacombs, dwarf mines and so on. Overall I think will be well worth the cheap $9.99 price <DIV CLASS=" title="Cool" />

 

 

http://www.winterwolves.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=2442&sid=ca32d30bbf1bc759a3d83ca195e29966



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9 MAY 2012 at 3:26pm

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I see there is a sci-fi game as well:

 

http://www.gamezebo.com/games/planet-stronghold/review

 

http://www.technologytell.com/gaming/69006/planet-stronghold-for-windows-mac-and-linux-review-winter-wolves/



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9 MAY 2012 at 6:14pm

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Ruh roh.

 

I wonder if that artist's reply to the self-proclaimed feminist writer, complaining about all the exposed skin in his artwork for the previous game, is secretly mocking her.   Check out the slightly showing aereola the artist put in, just barely visible on Miss Claws & Bustier in that promo above.

 


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9 MAY 2012 at 9:47pm

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Originally Posted By spelk (6 MAY 2012 12:20pm)

Now then, before you all shudder and start to worry about my defection to the world of anime dating sims, you should really take a look into Loren RPG. 

 

http://www.winterwolves.com/lorenamazonprincess.htm

 

It's got some nice anime/traditional western comic artwork, it's got a fairly decent story with interesting characters in a party centered turn based fantasy RPG. Loot and skill trees and a sort of Final Fantasy style combat mechanic. 

 

I saw the demo pop up, and grabbed it - and was pleasantly surprised by the amount of tactical depth to the game's combat system and co-operative skill trees. It's all wrapped around a tale of personalities and a world where Amazonian women, elves, cheeky dwarves and men have culture clashes and romantic crushes. Sort of a more light hearted Dragon Age.

 

WinterWolves have a bunch of games that are dating sims, or flower shop games, but this time they've gone for the "proper" RPG - if a little light on the gritty realism.

 

Definitely worth a look, if you like RPG's with a bit of story. Especially one that branches in several places and follows slightly different tracks. The amount of personalities (race/classes) is satisfying enough as they assemble throughout your journey and you have a party of six to tailor on your way. Loot is suitably epic, with named items showing up, and the skill trees allow for a couple of different specialisations per character class. 

 

Loren, the main character in the storyline, is your master, and she's a blademaiden Amazon Princess. The option for saucy outfits is there, to turn on or off to your desires. 

 

 

 

 

Any intrusive copy protection?

 

 



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10 MAY 2012 at 1:43am

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I had this question asked on another forum I frequent... so I contacted the dev (jack1974) about his DRM scheme..

 

To clear up the DRM issue, I talked with the italian developer on his community site.

http://www.winterwolves.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=2429&start=10#p9360

 

jack1974 said:

About the DRM it's the most fair you can find today. I am sure some people will complain, but only those who want to get a free copy  I use a ONE-TIME online activation, which is basically the same as clicking a link to download the full version from an email. No actually is better, because if you somehow lose the email or forget the link, you can just redownload the demo from my site and unlock it using YOUR EMAIL (which hopefully is hard to forget!).

Since I changed to this system, I got only positive comments from my users, since they all agreed is much easier to activate the game without the need to save an email with download links for 3 years. The only "negative" comments I got were from warez forums

 

spelk said:

Thanks for clarifying the DRM in your game. It seems a perfectly reasonable and usable mechanism to protect the IP, but also serve the paying customers with easier registration long into the future. For arguments sake, if Winter Wolves dissolves in the future, is there still a way for the game to be installed and played for the people who bought the game?

 

jack1974 said:

Yes obviously. If I go bankrupt, since I run the company myself, will simply upload a patched version and make all the games freeware. If I die all of a suddenly, I've left instructions on how to do that  so in any case there's 100% guarantee that customers who bought the game will be able to play it forever, as long it runs on the OS used (but for this there's not much solution and doesn't really depend on me!).

 

I also asked him about the comments about the J-Pop intro music, and he said this:

 

jack1974 said:

About the J-pop I agree and was a big mistake - I shouldn't have made it at all for a RPG. I'm sure I won't do such a song again for future RPGs! I have made a new build 1.0b which has the song removed from the main menu, it's accessible only in the credits screen, since many users also complained about it in the game



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10 MAY 2012 at 5:16am

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Two reviews have surfaced

 

http://www.capsulecomputers.com.au/2012/05/loren-the-amazon-princess-review/

 

and

 

http://www.digitallydownloaded.net/2012/05/review-loren-amazon-princess-pc.html

 

 



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10 MAY 2012 at 12:16pm

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Thanks for those two posts. I liked the responses from the dev, and the reviews seem fine for me.

 

I think I'll shell out for it. If any good, i'll maybe try the scifi one later.



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10 MAY 2012 at 1:59pm

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Originally Posted By Hartford688 (10 MAY 2012 12:16pm)

I think I'll shell out for it. If any good, i'll maybe try the scifi one later.

 

Let me know how you get one Hartford... and which of the characters you play. I went with the female elf, to craft her into a healer/archer of sorts. I have a thing about elven bowmaidens. 



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10 MAY 2012 at 2:02pm

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Originally Posted By Nefaro (9 MAY 2012 6:14pm)

Ruh roh.

 

I wonder if that artist's reply to the self-proclaimed feminist writer, complaining about all the exposed skin in his artwork for the previous game, is secretly mocking her.   Check out the slightly showing aereola the artist put in, just barely visible on Miss Claws & Bustier in that promo above.

 

 

I didn't notice the tiniest hints of nipple in that screenshot at first, till you point them out Nef! Thanks for that, you can't beat a bit of suggested sauce with your RPG adventures, especially when assaulting supernatural vampiric castles. If it works for The Witcher, it can work for Loren

 

 



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The details are in the bewbay staring!


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12 MAY 2012 at 12:38pm

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Originally Posted By spelk (10 MAY 2012 1:59pm)

Originally Posted By Hartford688 (10 MAY 2012 12:16pm)

I think I'll shell out for it. If any good, i'll maybe try the scifi one later.

 

Let me know how you get one Hartford... and which of the characters you play. I went with the female elf, to craft her into a healer/archer of sorts. I have a thing about elven bowmaidens. 

 

Well, I got it, and I really like it.

 

I can imagine that many people would not - but I like the graphics, the turn based combat, and the inventory. The graphics are simple, but the UI works very well.

 

Also, I like a heavily scripted story with defined characters who give a lot of interaction. I also enjoy this element of not controlling the lead character. Nice change to being personal saviour of the universe.

 

Well, I'm not so different from you - elf female slave, from the Queen's harem...but a secret assassin, specialising in crossbow. I also liked the character setup...decide the background/history and it prepopulates elements.

 

Overall, very pleased, thanks for giving me the heads-up.

 



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13 MAY 2012 at 7:17am

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Another review surfaces.

 

http://www.technologytell.com/gaming/93005/review-loren-amazon-princess-for-windows-mac-linux/



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4 JUN 2012 at 5:21pm

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I decided to try out the demo since spelk is high on this one. I was wondering, is the normal difficulty pretty easy? That is what I set it at and so far it has been a piece of cake. I just entered the mountain to get the sword and beat a necromancer pretty handily. Does the challange pick up?

 

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5 JUN 2012 at 1:56pm

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I do find it pretty easy, but for the moment I find it pleasantly restful. I have not finished the game however.

 

After my getting thumped regularly in ME2 by bosses as an adept in hardcore, sometimes it is nice change of pace...

 

That said, I will switch the difficulty next playthrough; and I think there are some gameplay changes that could be made (a dull way of getting experience and renown is to repeatedly take the same challenge; it never gets harder and the same tactics if they work the first time will win on repeated fights.). Once I finish I'll send the developer some suggestions (for example buffing the opposition on repetitions etc). Like many RPGs, you can game it and be absurdly successful (buckets on heads saga for Skyrim etc) or you can choose to be less effective but play in role.

 

Overall I quite like it nevertheless. Fun, light, and I like the story and dialogue, simple as it is.

 

Spelk may have some better insight.

 

 



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Thanks for the reply. I also would have liked the conversation choices to be more concrete instead of the Friendly, Joking and whatever the third one is. The story is interesting enough, but I wish some of the delivery wasn't so ... I'm not sure what to call it. It isn't exactly childish, but that is the way it rubbed me sometimes.


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