25 minutes of gameplay for Strategic War in Europe, an upcoming strategy game from the Time of Fury developer.

Hhhhmmm, I asked about this game over on the Matrixgame forums (http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3100724).  Didn't get much in the way of a response, even though I did notice one of the Wasteland devs checking out the thread.  Is this just Time of Fury light or something more?

Originally Posted By steve58 (23 MAY 2012 8:57am)

Is this just Time of Fury light or something more?

That's an apt way of describing it, based on the beta. The map scale is larger (meaning more land in a single hex) so the game isn't as unweidly as Time of Fury. Other than that, it has a lot of similarities, as you can see in the video.

The $64.000 question will be, how long does it take the AI to complete a turn? Since it only covers Europe, it should not be as bad as that beast of a game whose name I have already forgotten........

Originally Posted By JPFalcon (23 MAY 2012 10:03am)

how long does it take the AI to complete a turn?

You can see it pretty clearly in the video. Most of the time is spent clicking battle reports, so AI decision making seems to be essentially instantaneous.

What am I missing here?  It looks and sounds exactly like Time of Wrath and Time of Fury.  Is it Time of Fury with a few tweaks here and there?

Originally Posted By Rayfer (23 MAY 2012 12:32pm)

What am I missing here?  It looks and sounds exactly like Time of Wrath and Time of Fury. 

That's my feeling.

It's being released June 8th for $15.

The AI turn should take about a minute (depends what is going on the front line) if you will turn off the pop-ups (which can be done in the preferences->interface).

We wanted to create a lighter strategy game which will allow to complete the campaign during two or three evenings, as we do understood than not everybody has got time to play over 400 turns campaign in Time of Fury.

Originally Posted By steve58 (23 MAY 2012 8:57am)

Hhhhmmm, I asked about this game over on the Matrixgame forums (http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3100724).  Didn't get much in the way of a response, even though I did notice one of the Wasteland devs checking out the thread.  Is this just Time of Fury light or something more?

I'm hoping that your questions has been answered already.

I felt that I shouldn't answer some questions to early. 

As far as I'm aware this is heavily based on the Time of Fury Fast Play scenario Lightning War which is due for release after the next ToF patch. It seems however that whilst ToF Lightning War will have just one scenario 1939-1945 (70 turns) SWIE will have multiple start dates for shorter scenarios. Also seems to have a slightly modified (mainly graphicaly) UI.

If the price is in fact going to be c£10 then even though the LW scenario will be free if you own ToF I will still be tempted to pick this up, mainly because for playing against friends who don't allready have ToF this will be a nice low entry price.

P.S. I might well be wrong in all of the above as other than beta testing the first release of LW from a couple of months back I have no more insight than the rest of you.

Actually the Lightning scenario for ToF will be released a little bit later than 1.02, but this is going to happen as soon as we will have confirmed that 1.02 is stable.

The price is going to be 15$, but I'm not sure about pricing in other currencies, due to the taxation and exchange policies of different distributors.

Anyway our main policy was to make it as accessible as the the game itself. 

Originally Posted By doomtrader (24 MAY 2012 1:56am)

Originally Posted By steve58 (23 MAY 2012 8:57am)

Hhhhmmm, I asked about this game over on the Matrixgame forums (http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3100724).  Didn't get much in the way of a response, even though I did notice one of the Wasteland devs checking out the thread.  Is this just Time of Fury light or something more?

 

I'm hoping that your questions has been answered already.

I felt that I shouldn't answer some questions to early. 

 

 

Thanks Doomtrader, my questions have been answered.   

Originally Posted By JaguarUSF (23 MAY 2012 2:38pm)

It's being released June 8th for $15.

Its up for pre-order on Gamersgate for $11.24  (why $11.24?  Why not $11.25? )

Because the price is 14,99 I think

Was just about to pre-order (even though I've allready got ToF) however Gamersgate are charging £11.24 pre-order and £14.99 normal price.

$1 = £1 is a total rip-off for UK customers !

At current exchange rates it should be £7.18 pre-order and £9.58 normal price.

Any suggestions as to where I could buy / pre-order at (or close to) the proper UK price.

P.S. it is not so much the actual price that annoys me it is the blatant overcharging to UK and I suspect European / ROW customers.

I assume this is mostly due to the VAT in Europe.

Did you tried gamersgate.com instead of gamersgate.co.uk?

I have bought couple of games in the past using co.uk (instead of .com where those were not available). 

Adding VAT would only take it to £8.64 for pre-order so Gamersgate are still riping-off UK customers.

Tried to go to gamersgate.com but it automatically takes me to gamersgate.co.uk

I will see can the price be adjusted to EU standars.

It's about time the WI folks took a leaf out of the Unity of Command fellas and show the combat information you NEED, without the overly large textual information boxes, clickety click. Sure, bury the fully disclosed details deeper down, accessible for the stats guru.  Their fairly pleasant looking games, always seem to be straightjacketed by this verbose interface.

Originally Posted By spelk (25 MAY 2012 1:38pm)

It's about time the WI folks took a leaf out of the Unity of Command fellas and show the combat information you NEED, without the overly large textual information boxes, clickety click. Sure, bury the fully disclosed details deeper down, accessible for the stats guru.  Their fairly pleasant looking games, always seem to be straightjacketed by this verbose interface.

Spelk, actually you can easily turn off those popup messages.

Originally Posted By doomtrader (25 MAY 2012 2:08pm)

Spelk, actually you can easily turn off those popup messages. 

If you turn them off, how do you visually show the player the outcomes of each combat?

Also, can you resize any of the information windows? Or move them around the screen and arrange them yourself?

Doomtrader - noticed the price on Gamersgate has gone down to £9.74 / £12.99 which is a lot more acceptable.

spelk - I play ToF (and I'm assuming SWIE will be exactly the same) with the combat reports turned off. This works absolutley fine for me as the losses from combat appear on the main game screen as fading numbers rising from the units, so you see the effects of combat which is what I'd be looking for in the full combat results panel and at the same time see exactly where the combat is taking place, which units are participating and where if applicable they are retreating to all represented on the map over the course of a few seconds. If you look carefuly you can see this in the above video though it is rather obscured by the semi-opaque combat results report box a lot of the time.

Originally Posted By spelk (25 MAY 2012 2:37pm)

If you turn them off, how do you visually show the player the outcomes of each combat?

The newest beta version added the ability to turn combat reports off or display them for a set amount of time before they automatically disappear. I chose 1 second.

Originally Posted By spelk (25 MAY 2012 2:37pm)

Originally Posted By doomtrader (25 MAY 2012 2:08pm)

Spelk, actually you can easily turn off those popup messages. 

 

If you turn them off, how do you visually show the player the outcomes of each combat?

 

Also, can you resize any of the information windows? Or move them around the screen and arrange them yourself?

 

 

Most of the windows (poups) you can freely move on the screen.

You can also do whatever you wish with the GUI. This, however require modification of some csv files, but doesn't require any more skills than basic excel.