http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?731-Project-Truman

Wow -- a Crusader-King-2-ized map of the entire world. With shifting seasons. Gorgeous.

...Europa Universalis is the only one of Paradox's big titles that I've never been able to get into.  Made some efforts with EU3 and EU Rome, but it just never clicked.  Maybe this will be different?

Is the general feeling that Crusader King 2 'simplified' (or even dumbed-down) aspects of the original?  I wonder if there's a similar worry here with EUIV --

I luuuuuuv EU 3--but as is the norm with Paradox products, it was nothing special out of the gate and only became a great game after multiple patches, multiple expansions . . . and multiple years post-release.   So I'm really looking forward to playing a great EU 4 game around 2018 or so.

On another note, this casts a different light on all the abuse Paradox heaped on the Magna Mundi developers when they cut off that project.  Did they stomp on MM so it wouldn't take some of the spotlight away from their upcoming project?  I know if I were MM's lawyer I would sure be thinking that way.

CK2 dumbed up.I do not see where that feeling comes from you talk.

I've gotta get some more EU3 games in before EU4 kills it.

Originally Posted By AAshbery76 (10 AUG 2012 12:15pm)

 

I've gotta get some more EU3 games in before EU4 kills it.

Funny and all too often true. One may not like the new version better than the old one. It's just that there are some improvements you refuse to live without.

Originally Posted By AAshbery76 (10 AUG 2012 12:15pm)

CK2 dumbed up.I do not see where that feeling comes from you talk.

 

I've gotta get some more EU3 games in before EU4 kills it.

Ditto.  To be honest, I never really had a game going in EU III, I've made small steps but never really hooked into it. Luckily I found a nice let's play online that gives a great how to play EUIII: Divine Wind so I might give that a go.

Originally Posted By Fetrik (10 AUG 2012 2:01pm)

Originally Posted By AAshbery76 (10 AUG 2012 12:15pm)

 

I've gotta get some more EU3 games in before EU4 kills it.

Funny and all too often true. One may not like the new version better than the old one. It's just that there are some improvements you refuse to live without.

 

Yeah that's kind of the way I felt about CIV IV vs CIV III. I liked that in CIV III just because you researched something you didn't necessarily get the resources in your area and had to go and fight or trade for them. But, in CIV IV they allowed all that you researched to be in one of your areas and that took away the fun of fighting or trading for them, but, also in CIV IV I liked that you could make the game as challenging and hard as you wanted which CIV III didn't have all those options in the options menu. And CIV V was just too much change from the past and I didn't enjoy it at all.

EDIT: Also I find Crusader Kings II the best game of the lot and hardly see it as dumbed down. It's just fun to play the way it is where the wargame of it doesn't matter so much as the dynasty story through the timeline of it.

I look forward to purchasing the complete edition with all six expansions in 2022. 

Originally Posted By Martok (16 AUG 2012 6:43am)

I look forward to purchasing the complete edition with all six expansions in 2022. 

 

 

 

Come on, man, don't be so pessimistic, I've penciled this in on my 2018 calendar.

Reich 36, EU 3 is a great game and abysmally documented.  The wiki is the best resource, but be careful even with that to be sure that whatever subject you are looking up is based on Divine Wind and not one of the earlier expansions.  If there's something important you can't figure out, PM me and I might know.  I've been playing a lot lately.

I'm looking forward to it, even though CK is my favorite system of the bunch.  After CK2, I'm hoping they've got things lined up well out of the gate or at least soon afterward. 

Still, the inevitable chain of expansion packs makes me wonder if I should just play their older ones until the first or second compilation is on sale.  SO MUCH gaming to do as it is.