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| 25 JUN 2003 at 12:48am |
Les the Sarge 9-1eCenturion
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Status : Online | I speak for me only, but I went out and intentionally purchased Century of Warfare at a cost to this Canadian of 80 bucks simply because to this XP user, there was no way to run pre existing versions of the Operational Art of War series ie Operational Art of War Elite Edition Volume 1 (the WW2 battles)
I languished using a dual boot machine running Win 98 SE just so I could still play Volume 1. Volume 2 does play in XP though.
I have lived the world's dogma, that's why I know it's worthless.
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| 25 JUN 2003 at 7:45pm |
SgtBigGCenturion
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Status : Online | So Century of Warfare does work on XP? I can play volume II but I can't load any saved games. I guess I'll go out and spend some more money.
Thanks,
Mike
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| 25 JUN 2003 at 9:08pm |
Les the Sarge 9-1eCenturion
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Status : Online | Century of Warfare does indeed work just fine.
It isn't being offered free, but enough like it, that you occasionally have trouble finding a source.
Nothing like a game being occasionally sold out, to indicate it is a good game.
They also have a good forum community at Warfare HQ, so if you have any nasty problems, they can often be a good source of input.
[url]http://www.warfarehq.com/forums/index.php[/url]
It is a known thing, that scenarios saved games etc are not backwards compatible (to the best of my knowledge).
But with COW you get a cd that gives you the whole enchilada. I hope you are successful grabbing it.
I have lived the world's dogma, that's why I know it's worthless.
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| 30 JUN 2003 at 5:58pm |
SgtBigGCenturion
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Joined: 24 JUN 2003
Status : Online | OK, I order COW. It came today and it won't install. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Mike
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| 30 JUN 2003 at 9:40pm |
clambotCenturion
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Joined: 24 JAN 2004
Location: US
Status : Offline | patch 1.06 is supposed to make COW run under XP. It is available from warfarehq
[url]http://www.warfarehq.com/TOAW/TOAWHQFAQ.shtml#why[/url]
that page also explains some workarounds using the compatibility wizard.
Good luck! It is well worth the effort to get it running.
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| 30 JUN 2003 at 9:41pm |
clambotCenturion
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Joined: 24 JAN 2004
Location: US
Status : Offline | also, have you tried installing it using the compatability wizard?
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| 30 JUN 2003 at 9:43pm |
clambotCenturion
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Joined: 24 JAN 2004
Location: US
Status : Offline | >>>>there was no way to run pre existing versions of the
>>>>Operational Art of War series ie Operational Art of War Elite
>>>>Edition Volume 1 (the WW2 battles)
I have gotten the volume II elite edition to run on an XP machine, had to use the compatability wizard to install it.
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| 5 JUL 2003 at 7:20pm |
Jim H. MorenoCenturion
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Status : Online | Clambot,
I've had TOAW:CoW on my WinXP laptop for over a year now, with no problems. Installed as it should, with no finaglin' on my part.
May I recommend the Desert Shield/Storm scenario? One of my fave, since I was there.
Jim H. Moreno
'Stay Alert, Stay Alive'
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| 6 JUL 2003 at 10:21am |
depawelCenturion
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Status : Online | I had problems getting COW to run under XP. If you have 2 CD drives on your system use the 2nd drive to install and run. It worked for me.
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| 6 JUL 2003 at 11:09am |
Les the Sarge 9-1eCenturion
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Status : Online | In the approximate year or so at most (some seem to think I claim to have been at this for years ) I have noticed a few things where computers ie hardware and software ie OS's are concerned.
It's not always what you have, but how you combine them.
I think 98SE sucks big time for instance. I support this attitude by not even caring that I can't run SPWW2 and SPMBT. Well I wish I could run them (good games after all).
But truth is, since I reloaded Win XP (reloading does not imply something was wrong with it eh, I sometimes do it for the same reason I do housework) I have discovered perhaps why my scanner would not function with XP. It appears installing MS Office was the culprit.
But in the process, I have turfed 98SE off the system. It wants FAT 32 and I wish to use NTSF. And I had also found I was stuck running SPWW2 and SPMBT (as well as Steel Panthers 3 Brigade Combat original software) with 98SE.
This is in spite of the fact some can run them using XP.
It's not always the game, not always the OS and not always the hardware. But if the game won't run, then it is obviously one of the three. Clearly you have to have the game to run it, so you can remove it from the equation.
A lot of people are stuck with their OS. Me I have 3.1, 95, 98SE, and XP all on hand. I could load 3.1 up if I really wanted to because I also have the DOS disks too (I rarely throw anything away).
A lot of people can upgrade "someday", but somedays the upgrade is what caused the problem. In some ways, I would not mind having my old 486 back from my friend. Would not be any good for anything other than a couple of wargames, but so what, it's all that would be on it.
Currently my video card is opening new possibilities. But it seems it has also closed the door on Steel Panthers save for my playing SPWaW and Mega Campaigns.
As great as they are, they don't have it all. I would not mind having my old games giving me less hassles.
One piece of advice I could give to those having trouble with a game. Sometimes the only answer, is to accept, you won't be getting any solution to your problem. That is of course regrettable. Might be the truth though.
It seems if it isn't soundcard, then it's videocard, if not videocard it's the mouse. Then we move on to OS. Could be your OS. Then you might have some other piece of software that is secretly causing all the trouble.
I have tried the ultimate solution myself. Completely formatting the computer, and installing from standing start each OS and just the game. This doesn't alter your hardware though.
My solution for SPWW2/SPMBT and SP3 was to grin and bear it and say farewell.
My solution for TOAW where specifically Volume 1 was concerned (Volume 2 cooperated even if cranky about it), was to spend some cash to get CoW which has no XP complaints. Not everyone will like the cash solution, and not everyone will need it. But some of you might have to think about it.
Currently there is rapidly (ok maybe not rapid enough for some ) another alternative approaching. I still want to play modern Steel Panthers, I might have to accept I will have to wait and use Combat Leader to do it.
Or for some, in the case of TOAW, while it is a good game (in some cases it is sold out), you might have to get your TOAW sort of fix with Korsun Pocket or Battlefields.
Of course for those that prefer to play an RTS or shooter or a 3d design, none of this will have been of much interest But then they have their own aggravations.
I have lived the world's dogma, that's why I know it's worthless.
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| 7 JUL 2003 at 2:05pm |
GronkCenturion
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Status : Online | Les...
A bit off wargames, but I just saw you said you had a problem with XP and your scanner.
I was pulling my hair out this weekend, as I tried to re-install my HP 4200c scanner under XP. Device manager kept telling me the device was working fine, but each XP compatible scanner program-software I tried told me there was no scanner detected. I tried about 20 things..uninstalling and reinstalling software, USB checks etc.
You mentioned MS Office was the cause of your XP-Scanner issue. If you have a sec can you tell me what you had to do to get your set up to finally work ? Or what the issue with MS Office was ?
Thanks much, and apologies for jumping this thread....Mike
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| 7 JUL 2003 at 3:27pm |
Les the Sarge 9-1eCenturion
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Status : Online | In the case of my scanner, it is currently old enough it is lacking in decent drivers for it.
Although it is currently running. Must be a case of I have a decent driver update or emulation or whatever.
MS Office was producing a result that was I think a .dll hassle of some sort. .dll hassles gotta love em.
I had re installed 98 SE at the time and had re installed Office no trouble, then re installed XP and then Office again no trouble.
But the key thing was I had done a custom install of Office, and I went through and literally ripped each and every little tiny little frickin add on piece of software crud that was not SPECIFICALLY needed to run either Word or Frontpage.
I think the villain was in some tool or minor doodle. Not reeeeeeally sure, hey scanner works I wasn't going to kill myself over it hehe. We are talking about MS Office XP by the way.
A friend had told me I might want to back date to MS Office 2000 as he had commented my hassle had only started with Office XP.
No reason to say YOUR problem is Office of course, but you might have a program that has mangled a setting, or altered the situation in some way.
Nice example, if you install Quicktime, you have just usurped a lot of video settings from other programs. And removing those settings will drive you almost insane. I hate Quicktime for that reason.
Another example, when I have the full version of Adobe installed, loading a program that 'makes" you install Adobe Reader ie doesn't give you a yes/no choice, it will (or at least in my experience) convert your full version install to just Reader (easy to fix, but annoying).
I am going to send the link to the message to a buddy (non wargamer). he has recently claimed to be a "master of printers scanners and fax machines". He does tech help, he gets trained for this stuff.
I can ask him if he can use his "god like skills" if you are stil having trouble (never hurts to trap a guy with his ego hehe).
I have lived the world's dogma, that's why I know it's worthless.
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| 7 JUL 2003 at 3:32pm |
GronkCenturion
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Status : Online | Les...
Thanks, I'd appreciate his "mana from heaven" thoughts..LOL !
As always, thanks for your reply..I'm going to poke around MS Office tonight...I'm fairly sure I have the XP version of it.
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| 7 JUL 2003 at 3:35pm |
Les the Sarge 9-1eCenturion
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Status : Online | Keep in mind, uninstalling some times means not reeeeally telling your computer to forget you ever had it installed eh.
If you uninstall Office, you might not "fully" remove all signs it was ever there, and there in lies what might be what might cause the problem if any.
I have lived the world's dogma, that's why I know it's worthless.
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| 7 JUL 2003 at 3:53pm |
GronkCenturion
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Joined: 25 JUN 2003
Status : Online | Les...
Sigh..I know what you mean. Programs you think long uninstalled come back to haunt you months later.
One fix HP's site talked about involved digging into the registry to make changes there. The fix is not for the specific problem I'm having, as far as I can tell, so I'm avoiding that for now. Playing around with the Registry and or BIOS settings are not my cup of tea ! AKK !
I lost a lot of programs when I went to XP when it came out. I had to buy updates and or whole new programs for many functions. I will say I do like XP a lot more than 98se, tho I've heard others say just the opposite.
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| 10 JUL 2003 at 4:29pm |
SgtBigGCenturion
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Joined: 24 JUN 2003
Status : Online | Well I still can't get COW to install. I tried the compatability wizard and I downloaded the patch. Still nothing. I tried to install it on my work computer which runs on Windows NT and it worked, so the problem is not the CD. Any other ideas, this is getting a bit annoying.
Mike
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| 10 JUL 2003 at 4:51pm |
Les the Sarge 9-1eCenturion
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Status : Online | Have you checked in with the mob at Warfare HQ yet? They have a good mob of players there as well that might have some additional input we might have missed.
[url]http://www.warfarehq.com/forums/index.php[/url]
I have lived the world's dogma, that's why I know it's worthless.
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| 12 JUL 2003 at 2:10pm |
Jim H. MorenoCenturion
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Status : Online | The website [url]www.ntcompatible.com[/url] is where I often go to see what others have found to work/not work with WinXP, so I recommend it for all here. Since I play a ton of retro games, it has helped me out many times. I hope it helps you, too.
Jim H. Moreno
'Stay Alert, Stay Alive'
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| 13 JUL 2003 at 8:37pm |
SgtBigGCenturion
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Status : Online | [i]Originally posted by Les the Sarge 9-1e [/i]
[B]Have you checked in with the mob at Warfare HQ yet? They have a good mob of players there as well that might have some additional input we might have missed.
[url]http://www.warfarehq.com/forums/index.php[/url] [/B]
I started a similar thread there and someone just solved it for me. Game on! Thanks for all the help.
Mike
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