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| 11 JUN 2004 at 11:14pm |
MadHatterCenturion
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Status : Online | Very interesting post, with some good points I think. Also seeing one of the offending posts, speaking of the age of the US, I think this is something that some people need to be reminded of.
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| 11 JUN 2004 at 11:37pm |
VI66Centurion
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Status : Online | and as previously pointed out by some eloquent gentleman, look what we've accomplished in that span of time. There is not a country in history that has done so much.
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| 13 JUN 2004 at 1:43pm |
PraetorCenturion
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Status : Online | The original statement is confusing a state with a country
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| 13 JUN 2004 at 1:47pm |
PraetorCenturion
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Status : Online | There is not a country in history that has done so much.
As Great Britain, yep your right
don't you guys steal our glory now just cause you think you won the war indepedence, you still speak english for a start []
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| 13 JUN 2004 at 3:18pm |
GDS StarfuryGeneral
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Status : Offline | as proud as I am to be an US citizen I never said we speak english []
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| 13 JUN 2004 at 4:12pm |
MadHatterCenturion
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Status : Online | We don't speak English, we speak American!
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| 13 JUN 2004 at 4:17pm |
William AmosCenturion
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Status : Online | Yeah need to distinguish between nation and government.
The US has one of the longest lasting governments. We are a young NATION however.
Feel more pride in my nation than my government. Sure many others do also.
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| 14 JUN 2004 at 9:52am |
PraetorCenturion
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Status : Online | ORIGINAL: MadHatter
We don't speak English, we speak American!
Take the second O out of Colour and call it new language, genius?
Sorry guys doesn't quite cut the mustard for a new language, sounds more like an excuse for bad spelling
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| 14 JUN 2004 at 10:11am |
SmuckatelliColonel
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Status : Offline | second "o" and what do you get?[&
what's your point?
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| 14 JUN 2004 at 12:37pm |
gilmoCenturion
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Reading the quotes , i guess that you guys can feel proud of what you country (US) achieved.It is legitimate .
As it is legitimate that anybody should feel proud (one way or the other) about its own country . If you get deep into the history, social and cultural achievements of many countries , you will find many reasons for people to feel proud of their own country . It happens in every continent and every country.
I guess it is also important to look beyond one's own mirror to have a look at other people achievements []
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| 14 JUN 2004 at 12:41pm |
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Status : Online | the center of the world is everywhere.
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| 14 JUN 2004 at 12:57pm |
mac224Centurion
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Status : Online | My feelings exactly. Every country/culture has something(s) to be proud of. They also have things to be ashamed of. The way to a better country and planet is to continue to celebrate the achievements and to learn from the mistakes.
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...As it is legitimate that anybody should feel proud (one way or the other) about its own country . If you get deep into the history, social and cultural achievements of many countries , you will find many reasons for people to feel proud of their own country . It happens in every continent and every country.
I guess it is also important to look beyond one's own mirror to have a look at other people achievements []
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| 14 JUN 2004 at 1:02pm |
mac224Centurion
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Status : Online | ORIGINAL: Praetor
There is not a country in history that has done so much.
As Great Britain, yep your right
don't you guys steal our glory now just cause you think you won the war indepedence, you still speak english for a start []
LOL!!! Speak of "standing on the shoulders of giants"
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| 14 JUN 2004 at 6:43pm |
MountainManCenturion
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Status : Online | Starfury:
Interesting post. I never thought of it that way.
Someone once said that England and America are two nations seperated by a common language. English is not the same as American, now will it ever be, just the same as neither one is the same as australian or Canadian. Each is basically English to begin with, but with widely divergent slang, colloquilisms and general usage. Which is why we always end up explaining ourselves to each other whenever we meet. A "barbie" is a lot different to an American and an Australian, and so is a "boot" or "bonnet" to an Englishman. And absolutely no one, including other Englishmen, can understand a Lancashireman.
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| 14 JUN 2004 at 6:46pm |
FRENCHMANCenturion
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Status : Online | Ya, like how a fag is a gay guy in north america, and a smoke in Britain, and in England they say "I've got to go 'bum a fag'"
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| 14 JUN 2004 at 7:06pm |
GDS StarfuryGeneral
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Status : Offline | I would not use that turn of phrase in San Fransisco
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| 14 JUN 2004 at 8:45pm |
Joe-from-Ryans-Commander
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We don't speak English, we speak American!
Actually you speak differently from state to state.
Unlike here in Australia, a country the same size as the US, with a population of only 20,000,000, we speak and sound exactly the same right around the country.
It is the Canadians, especially those in the western provinces, who speak the clearest English.
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| 14 JUN 2004 at 9:34pm |
FRENCHMANCenturion
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Status : Online | I agree, Canada rocks
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| 14 JUN 2004 at 10:06pm |
MadHatterCenturion
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Status : Online | Oh ya, for sure.
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| 14 JUN 2004 at 10:25pm |
FRENCHMANCenturion
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Status : Online | Anywho, back to the original issue, America may be the oldest nationish (your really more of a union of states) The european countries have had an identity for much longer. English were english, and the french sure as hell were french.
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| 14 JUN 2004 at 11:04pm |
GhostWriterCenturion
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Status : Online | [b]Joe-from-Ryans-[/b]: It is the Canadians, especially those in the western provinces, who speak the clearest English.
gee, i thought the best "speakers" were in Quebec... []
cheers, [ ] GhostWriter [ ]
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| 14 JUN 2004 at 11:07pm |
GhostWriterCenturion
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Status : Online | FRENCHMAN: The european countries have had an identity for much longer. English were english, and the french sure as hell were french.
not so. the English were a combination of Norse, German, and 'French.'
the French go back to being German... []
cheers, [ ] GhostWriter [ ]
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