Dragon Age - What is your feeling on this?

I thought you said you only got 3 characters ghostryder if you didn't do the dog quest? How come MTW is saying he has 4 and he says he missed the dog quest?

A.I. production-it's more like, Okay, the games about ready--lets stick some A.I. in- you have 3 weeks.

Yes it appears if you get the bard or the warrior that too opens up the 4th slot- I missed those both with my character as well- but I dropped that run through because the dual welding elf warrior wasn't very good overall. My new Dalidh elf trained with a shield is doing much better- and i'm happy with a mage too.

I still have to play a rouge- perhaps for my evil runthrough.

A good test is Redcliff. After you leave town and get your perma-camp- if you can't get through that quest your likely using the wrong setup-

Don't take Sten nor Morgana as they will disapprove helping others outside the main fight against the spawn. I took the bard, alistar and the dog- and got through it pretty well.

Some hints on that: get the dwarf and his loons to help even if you have to pay- break into the warehouse and mention the oil for traps- getting these help turn the battle.

I never have been able to get to know what the boy's secret is. My Coierson is too low- nor have i ever figured out how to get the Reverend mother to bless the troops.

OK, having fun with DA:O is postponed for now.
 
At first, I thought that, you know, DLC would actually appear in Steam. Of course, modern releases are rarely functional out of the box. Steam gives me CD keys and tells me the bonus content should be installed.
 
As it's a Steam game, you don't have to enter CD keys (never got the pop-up) and the game doesn't recognize any of the DLC. In order to get the items from Dragon Age Journeys to work I had to go to services.msc...
 
Really, what is it with overlapping verification these days? Dawn of War II crashes half the time due to Windows! Live and Steam beating on eachother, and now I have to puzzle for a while to get the DLC I paid for, just because Steam can't actually put it into the game because EA/Bioware also wants me to be registered.
The DLC part of the Deluxe edition is a Deluxe screwup on Steam, that's for sure.

ghostryder


Yes it appears if you get the bard or the warrior that too opens up the 4th slot- I missed those both with my character as well- but I dropped that run through because the dual welding elf warrior wasn't very good overall. My new Dalidh elf trained with a shield is doing much better- and i'm happy with a mage too.

I still have to play a rouge- perhaps for my evil runthrough.

A good test is Redcliff. After you leave town and get your perma-camp- if you can't get through that quest your likely using the wrong setup-

Don't take Sten nor Morgana as they will disapprove helping others outside the main fight against the spawn. I took the bard, alistar and the dog- and got through it pretty well.

Some hints on that: get the dwarf and his loons to help even if you have to pay- break into the warehouse and mention the oil for traps- getting these help turn the battle.

I never have been able to get to know what the boy's secret is. My Coierson is too low- nor have i ever figured out how to get the Reverend mother to bless the troops.

 
Same experience here with the kid's secret and the reverent mother's blessing...but I keep Morgana and Alistair around just for their banter....it's some of the best humor in a game I've seen in a long time.  Gift giving can offset much of Sten and Morgana's ill feelings about your choices to help others outside of the main quest line. 

Yeah i think gifts are the only way your getting Morgano to bump uglies- luckily many gifts can be bought. Even a 'beer' is a gift. Though the 'right' gift gives far more returns- your know you got a 'right gift' when you get a cut scene. Afterwards your get nearly 20 points- if it's not the right gift you don't get a cut scene and you get perhaps 4 or 5 points.

This is a bit tricky because I lost 20 points on Morgano simply asking her if she wanted to leave the group. So don't even go there.

Read the codex's and understand thier background- think of thier class and story- and then you can figure out what gifts go to who. The bard likes flowers, especially if the lore of the flower is tied somehow to her God.

Morgana is a bit hard to figure out as I think they left some holes in her lore. for instance she doesn't like your dog but she's a shapshifter? That just doesn't make sense. She should be in tune with animals.

All the tribal stuff of course should go to Sten-
 
Morgana is as complex as Viconia was in Baldur's Gate 2- and is the most satisfying romance as I found Viconia to be. And much like Viconia treating her like a lady isn't the way to go about it. I wonder if you can change her alignment as you could in the Baal portion of BG? That would be too cool because she's very well acted and fleshed out.
 
I find this portion of the game very A+- these romance options help pull you in - or i could be prejudice towards them because of past projects where I worked with Emma on implimenting such things in a RPG project we worked together on. (Everyone should know Emma from Morrowind- her romance mods are the best out there)
 
 

for instance she doesn't like your dog but she's a shapshifter? That just doesn't make sense. She should be in tune with animals.

 
It depends, the Mabari are also employed by Ash Warriors operating near the Wilds, so it's quite possible that there was a violent run-in between her and a Mabari.
 
Or perhaps she doesn't like that the Mabari are more or less tied to an owner, and maybe she's jealous because she never managed to "bind" to one?
 
Improve on the lore already in the game by imagining your own, it's half the fun in RPG's for me.

good news got this today....bad news have to wait to xmas to play it

Good point I briefly thought on. It's the main reason I don't want to play a human in this game- thier lore that's ripe with enslavement and bigotry- here nobles can be pretty much like they were in the dark ages- and the more level headed ones looked down by thier own as fools (like the king in the start- and Loghan's comments on "It takes more than legends to win a battle")

^Flickjax why do you have to wait til Xmas?

Just remember kids, when you need something wholesome and innocent like Sesame Street twisted into something sick and perverted - I'm just a phone call away.

-HR

Christmas gift from the wife I'd suspect.

Gus you jump on the DA bandwagon yet?

Yes Gus...you know and I know and we all know your about ready to eat Romain noodles all week to make this purchase....they're five for a dollar in most stores...give in to the urge...

I don't want to give anything away, so I will not give specifics, but there is one mechanic (ok, two) that I am having trouble with:

- As opposed to a properly designed D&D game with the 6 fights to exhaust your party mechanic, it seems every battle is almost a fight to the death. I had to back out of a huge dungeon + outer area simply because I exhausted every single resource available. The game is tough in a good way, but maybe a bit much? In addition, I had to fight a few battles over again many times, finally winning on the lucky try.

- The cut scenes that lead to ambushes are WAY TOO MANY. I get a good sense of when an ambush is coming, so I position my people to get ready, but then the cut scene trigger trips and bunches my party together. UGHHH!!!!!

Well Swatter, as to the second point, in BG from time to time "you were waylaid by enemies and must defend yourself", which dropped you straight into a fight you could do nothing to avoid and had no time to prepare for. I believe I read that Dragon Age also has random encounters, but I'm still busy with writing about my experiences so I'm still in Ostagar.
 
I know it's a very gamey way of dropping your party into a less advantageous position, but this isn't the only game including that.

Have not yet guys, I'm still looking for my GoGamer import deal. In the meantime I have Vampire: The Masquerade and Knights of Honor taking up my gaming time.

Ghost I am really surprised at how much you seem to be liking DA. And heartened.

A new release that isn't bug ridden and has a great story and solid mechanics.

I am assuming you have put Risen to the side, for now.

Once GoGamer comes through or I can find a copy for ~35.00, I'll be in.

OT: There are other new releases on their way (King Arthur, Assassin's Creed II) that I am also looking forward to.

Just remember kids, when you need something wholesome and innocent like Sesame Street twisted into something sick and perverted - I'm just a phone call away.

-HR

yes Risen and gothic 3 will have to wait- i'm just having too much fun.

BTW there are random incounters when you travel the world map- but they seem balanced -

I'm guessing your wife is a bit less excited about that than you, Gusington, she probably only sees the writing of big spending on the wall.
 
December is always an expensive month, with or without new games. You guys have Christmas with Santa from the North Pole, I have Sinterklaas with a "Santa" from Spain and in both cases gifts have to be bought.
 
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I'm also pretty surprised, and happy, that you're liking the game so much ghostryder. Considering how sceptical most of us, and especially you, were prior to release, the positive reactions over here are a good sign of the quality of the game.
 
BTW: I got all my DLC to work now. Steam could've saved me a lot pain if they had send, say, an automated message to tell me what I had to do. It would also be nice if they had delivered the redeem codes without the "-" and didn't label them CD keys...

Bioware never disappoints in my experience.  Some games I like more than others, but Bioware has never released a bug filled beta project for public to purchase.  Guess I'm a fanboy. 

Gusington


Damn you too. Am I the only one on these boards not playing this yet?

No, no. I'm just sitting back and living vicariously for a while.
 

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Warning....watch out for yesterday's patch.  It has given problems to Vista users making it unable to open the game and play.  I had to uninstall and reinstall the game without the patch to get it to work again.  Was able to save my saved games though.   Good thing!

Played this quite bit now, and have got to admit I've shifted it from normal to easy, and even then I am losing some fights.  This game is tough.  Love the story, and I am definatey pleased with my purchase overall. I just feel a little ashamed...