http://whenshtf.com/showthread.php?t=21965 on of the chaps on whenshtf writes a very good sitrep
"In last 24 hours, an unknown virus (presumed pneumonic plague) infected another 37 thousand and killed 12 more people. The authorities deny that this is pneumonic plague, and insist that people die from influenza, pneumonia and ARI.
Meanwhile, an emergency message from the President of Ukraine to the international community to immediately help in the fight against the virus, only reinforces the suspicion that pneumonia and influenza is not the cause.
"The current threat to national security of Ukraine, which we can not offset on our own, requires me to turn to our closest friends and strategic partners for emergency aid", - Yushchenko said in an appeal to the leaders of Belarus, Hungary, Moldova, Poland, Romania, Russia Slovakia, USA, and EU Commission President and Secretary General of NATO.
According to the operative data of the Ministry of Health on 1 November, recorded through out the country more than 191 thousand patients with unknown disease of lungs. Of these, 83 thousand are children. Total number deaths recorded - 60, 123 people are dying.
Day before, on October 31, according to Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko, 154 200 people fell ill, according to official data, 48 patients died, including two children.
Authorities officially called the disease "swine flu", "California flu", "SARS","pneumonia", but doctors say on the basis of clinical data and the rapidity of the epidemic, that it is pneumonic plague.
Many Ukrainians believe that Ukraine has been infected with pneumonic plague by Russian terrorist organization, the FSB of Russia, using bacteriological weapons to destabilize the situation necessary for the armed aggression of Russia against Ukraine.
According to unofficial information, the death rate in Ukraine from the alleged pneumonic plague is higher than officially announced.
According to unofficial data, "in Ukraine over the past week about 1500 people have already died. As noted by some doctors, the reason - pneumonic plague. High temperatures from the first day, a burning sensation in the chest, the desire to drink cold and nausea - all of these symptoms are frightening. People die within few days.
On the other hand, Ukrainian media reported that the virus is rapidly spreading in Ukraine and has already reached Odessa:
"1 woman died in the area of Odessa. Swine influenza has not been confirmed, most likely pneumonic plague was the cause.
Odessa and the region is already infected, most likely, is mutated pneumonic plague ", - said one of the doctors of private clinics in Odessa.
"The panic that spreads through the city, is so great that people are willing to sit at home even on just bread and water. Lack of gauze dressings in the city and surrounding areas - is just the beginning, and there is no elementary necessary ascorbic acid and inhalers.
Meanwhile, the first officially recorded death is because of pneumonic plague, and believe me in reality the are much more, "- says the Odessa physician.
All the doctors throughout Ukraine say that this is pneumonic plague.
"I have met with friends from the western Ukraine, the doctors say that the lungs of the dead were black. And that, perhaps this is not influenza but pneumonic plague. Well, if this is indeed a plague, then the news won't mention it for now, and certainly - it's 100% death (according to the U.S. for 1950-1994 - 41%, but the American health care, of course, not Ukrainian, and American doctors knew that they are dealing with a plague - KC).
With each passing day the picture becomes more and more dire, bloggers wrote and continued:
"The number of deaths is understated. The practice of health care service - to respond to anything after a really big problem. And "big" - far not 60 - as reported to the authorities at the moment.
All the actions talk about a really serious problem that the government is facing. The atmosphere in general - I recalled the early days of the Chernobyl accident - were the same "movement", and secrecy on the part of officials.
The regional center: converted the place to fit 200 beds, tripled the personnel of Precinct Therapeutic Services for special situation of contagious diseases (on materials of live broadcast 'Medchinovnika').
By nosocomial information - all the staff of one of the agencies was transferred to the barracks, in which there was a fatal outcome. (No one was allowed to go home at the end of the working day on Friday). Establishment is located not far away from the major microdistricts.
Traffic police from the western regions does not let transport to go to the east. People are running, it's terrible. Official comments: "information about checkpoints we do not confirm, but do not rule out such a course of action."
One of my friends in these minutes is going to Kiev by train. In our area - quarantine, in Kiev - not yet. The stewards not only wear masks but also disposable gloves - at all times. The clinical picture of what the virus is called Ukraine A H1N1 is same as the picture of pneumonic plague - the speed of hemorrhagic damage of lung tissue, on the absence of prodromal period, on hectic - up to 39-40 degrees - temperature.
- Information from Kiev says that it is not an epidemic of swine flu, but a previously unknown form of pneumonic plague. Doctors have been given the orders not to disclose this information. The figures are understated by tens of times, citizens inform.
Note that this summer in one of Chinese cities pneumonic plague was officially declared, and only 3 deaths reported. The city was quarantined. No further deaths were reported.
- All this is not known not only for the reason that the government forces not to disclose the information, carefully concealing the real situation and closes the zone where the epidemic erupted. The exact number of victims is much higher than shown by the statistics - everyone understands it. How many really died? If you take 152 thousand registered patients and only 52 deaths, even from ordinary flu more than 450 people would have died, according to the annual mortality statistics.
At the moment, in the disaster zone (Ternopil, Ivano-Frankivsk, Lviv, Lutsk) receipts are taken of non-disclosure, doctors are not allowed to record the death with symptoms of pneumonic plague. Deaths are recorded as a result of heart attacks and other things.
The zones of "reanimation" increase. Departure from cordon is blocked. Photo, video filming the scene, contacts with the press - are not permitted under any pretext. Facts are checked, according to ordinary Ukrainians.
From Ternopil message: I am afraid - neighbor from above the floor died. I called my classmate - a doctor - she does not want to speak on this thing, but said that she was also scared. Perhaps we have some sort of mutated virus.
- I'm flying to Odessa this night. In Ukraine there is swine flu or pneumonic plague. They say that already died whether a thousand, or 1500 people, writes Corneliy Glas from Yerevan.
- A call on to mobile. On army channels - "Pneumonic plague. Ternopil region - 26 dead. Barracks rearranged into hospitals", said Eustas a resident of Ukraine.
Could the swine flu vaccine be causing/spreading this?
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